Why is Philly not well liked by the rest of PA if at all (Philadelphia: crime, employment)

[wanneroo]

Originally Posted by zip95

It's nice to live in a fantasy world where we use our imagination instead of actual facts.

Here are some actual facts. The Philadelphia region constitutes 46% of Pennsylvania's population and over 42% of Pennsylvania's Gross Domestic Output. Pittsburgh constitutes another 21% of Pa's GDO. For those of you paying attention, that means more than 62% of Pennsylvania's economic output comes from the two major urban centers. So who's dragging down the ecomomy? The big cities or the rest of Pennsyltucky?

Thanks for putting those facts out there and showing the drag on the state economy Philly has on the rest of the state. 46% of the population but only 42% of the economic output.

And one would assume because it's a big city with all the infrastructure that the economic output would be even far higher than level, which makes the numbers look even worse.

I vote to secede.

[*Sweetkisses*]

If Philly seceded from PA then PA will really be known for nothing.

[john_starks]

then Philadelphia, NJ it is!

lets get Rendell on board

[Marodi]

Originally Posted by *Sweetkisses*

If Philly seceded from PA then PA will really be known for nothing.

Because being known for having a city with the nickname Killadelphia is a great thing for PA

[Duderino]

Originally Posted by Marodi

Because being known for having a city with the nickname Killadelphia is a great thing for PA

...and Philadelphia is the only city in which murders occur?

Let's get real, folks.

[Duderino]

Originally Posted by wanneroo

Thanks for putting those facts out there and showing the drag on the state economy Philly has on the rest of the state. 46% of the population but only 42% of the economic output.

And one would assume because it's a big city with all the infrastructure that the economic output would be even far higher than level, which makes the numbers look even worse.

You're completely wrong -- and, while the previous poster's overall point was correct, the population figures are off.

Based on current Census estimates:

Montgomery: 795,000
Bucks: 621,342
Delaware: 555,000
Chester: 482,112
Philadelphia: 1,448,394

Total: 3,901,848

% of Pennsylvania pop. total (12,400,000): 31.5

THUS, in the Pennsylvania portion of the Philadelphia Metropolitan Area, 31.5% of the state's population accounts for 42% of the total state economic output. That's quite the contrary to being an economic "drag."

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Fil...iladelphia.pdf

[zip95]

Originally Posted by Duderino

You're completely wrong -- and, while the previous poster's overall point was correct, the population figures are off.

Based on current Census estimates:

Montgomery: 795,000
Bucks: 621,342
Delaware: 555,000
Chester: 482,112
Philadelphia: 1,448,394

Total: 3,901,848

% of Pennsylvania pop. total (12,400,000): 31.5

THUS, in the Pennsylvania portion of the Philadelphia Metropolitan Area, 31.5% of the state's population accounts for 42% of the total state economic output. That's quite the contrary to being an economic "drag."

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Fil...iladelphia.pdf

Woops...my bad....I incorrectly used figures for the whole Philly metro, which includes PA,NJ and Delaware

[Pilot1]

Hmmm, I'm curious as to what Philadelphia County (just the city, not metro area) produces compared to its consumption. Have to do some research.

[danwxman]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

Hmmm, I'm curious as to what Philadelphia County (just the city, not metro area) produces compared to its consumption. Have to do some research.

Philadelphia's suburbs wouldn't exist without the city, however.

[floridasandy]

philadelphia also has a disproportionate level of welfare compared to pennsylvania. Taped to a wall where Tanya McFadden waits for her caseworker is a somber reminder of how far welfare reform has come in Pennsylvania. "One Check Left," the sign says.

To McFadden and thousands of other women like her, March spells the beginning of the end. Statewide, 37,734 adults - mostly single mothers - will hit their two-year limit for public assistance. Under Pennsylvania law, they are required to work for 20 hours a week, or else lose welfare benefits for the whole family.

Some 25,876 of them, nearly 70 percent, live in Philadelphia and its suburbs. McFadden is among many who wonder if, and how, they can survive without public assistance.