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Old 10-22-2008, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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What has to stop happening in not only our state but around our nation is this notion of "city = icky." I can think of some neighborhoods in Scranton or Bethlehem, both medium-sized cities, that I'd prefer to live in as far as aesthetics and apparent safety are concerned, than many suburbs I'm familiar with. I don't consider desirable well-established small towns like Coopersburg, Emmaus, or Macungie to be "suburbs." I'd consider Forks Township, Palmer Township, Saucon Valley, etc. to be "suburbs." In my impending relocation to Hartford I'm actually considering a "suburb" that happens to be a small city in itself---Manchester. This community has sidewalks, a thriving downtown area, tree-lined streets, modest yet well-kept older homes, and a neighborhood spirit that you can't find in those McMansionvilles. I currently live in a suburban subdivision where it's an incessant case of "keeping up with the Jones's." One neighbor just got a new BMW. Another neighbor has been transforming their already posh home into a Mediterranean-styled villa. Then you have people like me who don't give a hoot about materialism living in sterile Stepford/Wisteria Lane hell.

It's amazing the number of idiots in this state who will say "stay away from Bethlehem" or "keep out of Scranton" as if these cities in their entirety are the plague or something. None of our state's struggling medium-sized cities will ever be gentrified and revitalized if we keep turning our backs on them. Instead I cringe as I see tree after tree near my home falling each day to make way for more subdivisions.
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:28 AM
 
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But ScranBarre, Aren't you yourself planning to leave?

I think it's funny when people talk about "leaving" the city when many of us have never lived in a city and don't want to live in a city. Not because of crime, but because they're crowded. I'm glad people want to live in a city and I highly recommend Bethlehem for anyone that asks which Lehigh Valley city they should live in, but if someone says they are looking for a small town, I'm not going to suggest a city.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:06 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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But ScranBarre, Aren't you yourself planning to leave?

I think it's funny when people talk about "leaving" the city when many of us have never lived in a city and don't want to live in a city. Not because of crime, but because they're crowded. I'm glad people want to live in a city and I highly recommend Bethlehem for anyone that asks which Lehigh Valley city they should live in, but if someone says they are looking for a small town, I'm not going to suggest a city.

Crowded? We're talking about cities like Bethlehem and Scranton, not New York City, Philadelphia, or Washington. To be honest, Scranton neighborhoods are almost indistinguishable from neighborhoods in surrounding established older small towns....except for that here in the "big city" , we don't have to drive in our cars for every single convenience.

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Old 10-23-2008, 10:15 AM
 
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I've never even lived in TOWN let alone a city of any size. So crowded to me means something different then someone that is used to a city. What can I say, I grew up in Delaware.
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