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Old 03-29-2007, 06:21 PM
 
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So the good news is that the police busted these guys and made an example out of them. In my opinion, that's a positive post.
Didn't mean to imply something negative. Just thought giving the local paper's web address would help people who are looking at this area. I agree that if you look close enough, you'll find drugs anywhere no matter what the socioeconomic condition.
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Old 05-24-2008, 04:36 AM
 
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I'll go Lancaster in this June, but there is a big problem for me, I will arrive in JFK international airport, and I dont know how to go Lancaster PA. Can anyone tell me the way how I can reach Lancaster county? may be by bus or train?
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:36 AM
 
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I'll go Lancaster in this June, but there is a big problem for me, I will arrive in JFK international airport, and I dont know how to go Lancaster PA. Can anyone tell me the way how I can reach Lancaster county? may be by bus or train?
JFK shuttle train to Long Island Railroad station in Jamaica. Take the Railroad to Penn Station. Walk downstairs for Amtrak train to Lancaster.
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Old 05-28-2008, 06:54 AM
 
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The people are all pretty nice dont listen to the nay-sayers. There are drugs in the inner city and somtimes something stuppid like a migging or stabbing, but almost always the criminial knows or has a grudge against the victim. there are a lot of puerto ricans who have moved from NYC, or had their parents move there. Dont beleive the negativity though regarding unfriendly - ness. There are lots of hillbillies and rednecks but dont let them bother you too.
They're nice to you if you're white and christian. And I'm sorry but the last 3 attempted muggings while my hubby and I walked around downtown Lancaster were not by anyone that we knew. They're usually pretty wimpy though when you pull a knife out on them.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:00 AM
 
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Huh? What is this about ? I never heard of that? A joke huh? ("You also have to pay a $52 EMS tax that comes out of your first paycheck")

So Lancaster county is having a lay off problem? Does this mean the county is going down? Homes dropping in price? Without jobs the homes will drop in price fast, how else can people get by?


Overall how does everybody like living in Lancaster compared to where they are originally from?

Thanks
I hate Lancaster county and will be moving as soon as I graduate college and work off the time I owe for my scholarship. Homes aren't dropping in price yet.. The economy seems pretty strong here, compared to the other places I have lived (Pensacola, Fl; Baton Rouge & Lafayette, La; Prescott, Az; Maturin Venezuela; Reform, Alabama). It seems that the factories are usually the hardest hit, but I haven't really heard of any major problems from layoffs.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:47 AM
 
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Hello from Houston!
Could you please give me some information about Lancaster. My husband has an interview there today and depending on if they make him an offer and he likes the job, we will move there. He already has an offer in Vermont and more than likely we will be moving there. Still, we are going to weigh the pros and cons of both places before moving. I've never been to Lancaster (or anywhere in PA for that matter) so a couple of things I want to know about it are:

1. Cost of living/quality of life
2. Good & bad neighborhoods
3. Good school districts (we have a toddler and another one on the way)
4. Good hospitals/doctors
5. Pollution/Allergies (my husband suffers from really bad allergies and we want to live somewhere that will minimize them)
6. Entertainment/Culture
7. Traffic (traffic here is horrendous!!!)
8. Scenery and outdoor activities
9. If you live here, why do you love it or hate it?

I know its alot of stuff but anything you can tell me about Lancaster would be great. Thank you!!!
Coming from Houston, you're in for a culture shock. I use to spend a lot of time in Houston cause my cousins lived there. The people are nothing like there. They will seem rude, snotty, immature and lazy. They will use their religion to prove to themselves that they are better than you. You will always be an outsider and most natives probably won't even acknowledge that you exist.
Cost of living is ok. I find we make more money here and the prices of things are only slightly more than in the south (I'm talking about prices post hurricane katrina....big difference where I'm from). You can find decent apartments in the 600-700's a month. For a nice home you'll be closer to the 900's and up if you're renting. Prices vary a lot based on area if you're buying. Most of the homes I like are 200k and up. You can get old farmhouses that need updates in the 150's-180's in decent areas if you look hard enough. In the city it's easy to find places under 100k.
Bad neighborhoods.....anything in the city. Just stay out of it if you have kids, don't want to deal with crime and want them in a good school. In the winter when it snows, the city is a mess. They had a huge ice storm when we first moved here and they didn't scrape it, it had to eventually melt off the road. They rarely plow the city properly, just around the hospital gets plowed right. Outside of the city though, they plow really well. You can tell instantly when you hit Manheim Township. So, good areas....Millersville area, Manheim Township, Lititz....anything outside of Lancaster city. I find the Route 30 area annoying cause the tourists are usually swarming and you can't get anywhere in under an hour.
Lancaster General is supposed to be the best hospital in this area. I'm in clinicals there and it's a great organization. The staff is pretty proud of it and it shows in their work. Of course I've seen my share of nasty nurses, but that's everywhere.....it's not easy to fire someone I guess? But they try to have a top notch hospital and it shows. Most of my patients have had decent experiences there (I like to give myself credit ). There's another hospital downtown...Lancaster Regional I think ? I'm told to avoid it. In Lititz there is Heart of Lancaster. No one is ever in there so if you have a basic emergency and don't want to wait, go there. However, I'm told from other nurses that the staff isn't as good and they're understaffed. It's kind of a place people go right before they retire. That's what I'm told.....I haven't worked in there yet, and have had limited visits there. Those are the only hospitals I know anything about.
Allergies....DON'T MOVE HERE!! I never had allergies before I came here and I lived everywhere in the South and lived in Venezuela too..... now, it's a rare day that I can actually breath. The pollen is terrible, your husband will feel like he is drowning. The also use a lot of manure fertilizer here, so it stinks often and I think some of my problem is breathing that stuff in. My grandmother had really bad allergies and she moved to Prescott, Az....the air is great and it's gorgeous there, but is a boring retirement community. I think this place has the worst air quality I have ever experienced.....please, save your hubby some trips to the ER and consider moving somewhere else. He'll be miserable here.
Entertainment.....there isn't much. I come from the New Orleans area though, so my opinion isn't fair. Everything sucks compared to New Orleans. How can you compete with Mardi Gras, Bourbon St, the French Quarter, Blues & Voodoo Fest? I find the Amish stuff boring and that's pretty much all they have. They have parades and stuff, but again, after a New Orleans Mardi Gras, I don't even bother glancing outside for them. They're lame. There are pretzel factories, Dutch Wonderland and Hershey Park 40 mins away. Phily is nearby. Hiking around here sucks. The scenery consists of cornfield, cornfield, river with no trespassing signs, cornfield.... Nothing real interesting on the trails around here. No mountains or rocks to climb. In Elizabethtown and Lebannon they have the Conewago trail, which is like, 12 miles long....but again, only fields to look at.
Traffic is bad. They don't want to improve roads, but let the developers go crazy. Picturesque farmland is becoming scarce. It's becoming very overpopulated....you can't do anything without someone staring at you. In the winter when it snows sometimes it takes us 2 hours on 501 to get to Lititz. The city is almost undriveable after a big snow.
I hate it here. I am counting the days until I can move. We started out in Lancaster city and moved to Lititz....we've been here almost 2 years, and couldn't stand it about 4 months after we moved. The people believe they are better than you and their kids are the same way. This is the most unfriendly, intolerant bunch I have ever seen. The natives will disagree, saying it's friendly and the best place in the world to live....just realize you will never be accepted like them or even by them. You will never be invited to a barbeque by a local, you're lucky if they say hi to you. The people that move here from other places are usually nice though....
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Lancaster County, PA
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I won't attempt to compare Lancaster County to any other place I've lived or visited, since I pretty much knew what I was getting into when we moved here five years ago. All I know is the people in Lititz. We researched EVERYTHING expect for the people, which is basically impossible to do. I didn't even know that this forum existed. If I did I would not have moved here. The natives here have a keen sense of knowing within seconds of meeting you whether or not you're born & raised here and if you're not, prepare for the cold shoulder. I thought living in a melting pot like our development that the people would be nicer, since most don't have families nearby and it's nice to have someone to talk to. WRONG! The few natives that live here pick their little teams and the others are pushed aside permantly. Whatever you do or say is wrong. They focus their life on self gratification and indulge the kids constantly. They can do no wrong. If you say anything about Junior riding his bike on your new garden you're considered to be mean and territorial. So you put up with barking dogs at
5am, hot bottle rockets lying on your shingles, etc. We've tried and tried but we're still ignored. Race or religion has no bearing here; we're white and practicing Catholics. Don't even get me started on our church community. Again, the only time our wonderful neighbors know we exist is when they need something. I can tolerate traffic, horrible odors, and bugs but I can't deal with the ignorance.
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Old 05-28-2008, 09:10 AM
 
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Coming from Houston, you're in for a culture shock. I use to spend a lot of time in Houston cause my cousins lived there. The people are nothing like there. They will seem rude, snotty, immature and lazy. They will use their religion to prove to themselves that they are better than you. You will always be an outsider and most natives probably won't even acknowledge that you exist.
Cost of living is ok. I find we make more money here and the prices of things are only slightly more than in the south (I'm talking about prices post hurricane katrina....big difference where I'm from). You can find decent apartments in the 600-700's a month. For a nice home you'll be closer to the 900's and up if you're renting. Prices vary a lot based on area if you're buying. Most of the homes I like are 200k and up. You can get old farmhouses that need updates in the 150's-180's in decent areas if you look hard enough. In the city it's easy to find places under 100k.
Bad neighborhoods.....anything in the city. Just stay out of it if you have kids, don't want to deal with crime and want them in a good school. In the winter when it snows, the city is a mess. They had a huge ice storm when we first moved here and they didn't scrape it, it had to eventually melt off the road. They rarely plow the city properly, just around the hospital gets plowed right. Outside of the city though, they plow really well. You can tell instantly when you hit Manheim Township. So, good areas....Millersville area, Manheim Township, Lititz....anything outside of Lancaster city. I find the Route 30 area annoying cause the tourists are usually swarming and you can't get anywhere in under an hour.
Lancaster General is supposed to be the best hospital in this area. I'm in clinicals there and it's a great organization. The staff is pretty proud of it and it shows in their work. Of course I've seen my share of nasty nurses, but that's everywhere.....it's not easy to fire someone I guess? But they try to have a top notch hospital and it shows. Most of my patients have had decent experiences there (I like to give myself credit ). There's another hospital downtown...Lancaster Regional I think ? I'm told to avoid it. In Lititz there is Heart of Lancaster. No one is ever in there so if you have a basic emergency and don't want to wait, go there. However, I'm told from other nurses that the staff isn't as good and they're understaffed. It's kind of a place people go right before they retire. That's what I'm told.....I haven't worked in there yet, and have had limited visits there. Those are the only hospitals I know anything about.
Allergies....DON'T MOVE HERE!! I never had allergies before I came here and I lived everywhere in the South and lived in Venezuela too..... now, it's a rare day that I can actually breath. The pollen is terrible, your husband will feel like he is drowning. The also use a lot of manure fertilizer here, so it stinks often and I think some of my problem is breathing that stuff in. My grandmother had really bad allergies and she moved to Prescott, Az....the air is great and it's gorgeous there, but is a boring retirement community. I think this place has the worst air quality I have ever experienced.....please, save your hubby some trips to the ER and consider moving somewhere else. He'll be miserable here.
Entertainment.....there isn't much. I come from the New Orleans area though, so my opinion isn't fair. Everything sucks compared to New Orleans. How can you compete with Mardi Gras, Bourbon St, the French Quarter, Blues & Voodoo Fest? I find the Amish stuff boring and that's pretty much all they have. They have parades and stuff, but again, after a New Orleans Mardi Gras, I don't even bother glancing outside for them. They're lame. There are pretzel factories, Dutch Wonderland and Hershey Park 40 mins away. Phily is nearby. Hiking around here sucks. The scenery consists of cornfield, cornfield, river with no trespassing signs, cornfield.... Nothing real interesting on the trails around here. No mountains or rocks to climb. In Elizabethtown and Lebannon they have the Conewago trail, which is like, 12 miles long....but again, only fields to look at.
Traffic is bad. They don't want to improve roads, but let the developers go crazy. Picturesque farmland is becoming scarce. It's becoming very overpopulated....you can't do anything without someone staring at you. In the winter when it snows sometimes it takes us 2 hours on 501 to get to Lititz. The city is almost undriveable after a big snow.
I hate it here. I am counting the days until I can move. We started out in Lancaster city and moved to Lititz....we've been here almost 2 years, and couldn't stand it about 4 months after we moved. The people believe they are better than you and their kids are the same way. This is the most unfriendly, intolerant bunch I have ever seen. The natives will disagree, saying it's friendly and the best place in the world to live....just realize you will never be accepted like them or even by them. You will never be invited to a barbeque by a local, you're lucky if they say hi to you. The people that move here from other places are usually nice though....

Wow! you are exactly right! I'm from the general area and I agree completely with your observation. I know people that moved to the area from out of state to save money and they hate it, what is the sense of saving a buck if in turn your quality of life sucks? I'd rather spend more money to be in an area that has more to offer in terms of quality of life and nice people, than be surrounded by manure and people that are backwards and cheap. "Hey naa, Vell how much is dis gonna cost me, na oncest" or "if you aint Dutch you aint much".
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:48 AM
 
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I know people that moved to the area from out of state to save money and they hate it, what is the sense of saving a buck if in turn your quality of life sucks? I'd rather spend more money to be in an area that has more to offer in terms of quality of life and nice people, than be surrounded by manure and people that are backwards and cheap. "Hey naa, Vell how much is dis gonna cost me, na oncest" or "if you aint Dutch you aint much".
Hehe.....I love it. You forgot to use 'yet' somewhere in one of your sentences "I have to buy a sweeper, yet" (just learned that sweeper is a vacuum, been wanting to use my new word). Has anyone heard "Do you know yourself there?" We think it's supposed to mean, "Do you know your way around?"
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:30 PM
 
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if we've developed an attitude of coldness, and avoidance, its because people like you that come into our area, for our lifestyle, and decide, you want to change it. we were always darn happy, with the way things were around here, then the transplants tried to liberalize it. the transplants, say well we bring you culture, and we bring you this and that, well the only thing that transplants bring are, traffic gridlock, crime, drugs, over burdened schools, and attitudes. you moved to this area, and ruined it, and now you say its a horrible place to live, well then move, cause we dont want ya here.
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