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Old 12-28-2009, 10:20 AM
 
Location: NOT a native Pittsburgher
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Another wonderful weekend spent dealing with the nasty PA turnpike. The whole experience makes me cringe. I shudder to think what health care in PA will be like once the government takes over.

Are they EVER going to sell off the turnpike?
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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If maintaining highways is an indication of how healthcare will be managed, I think we'll be okay.

Afterall, the state maintains many highways very well. For instance, I79 and I80 are very nice.

The turnpike is only highway that is an utter disaster. It was built wrong. Not much can be done about it other than starting from scratch.
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:55 AM
 
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The only problem I have with the TP is all the political appointments to the commission. The money should be going to the workers, not the politicos. Seriously, how tough is it to maintain a highway?
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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Seriously, how tough is it to maintain a highway?
Since the Turnpike was the first interstate built, it was made wrong.

There is no base. The Turnpike keeps sinking and they just kept throwing more material on top.

Thankfully they're finally trying to correct it.

Recent construction is digging down over 20 feet to build a base. (If you've been on the turnpike lately, you would have seen this.)

Sure, they should have figured this out years ago, but I'm glad they're finally addressing the problem.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Since the Turnpike was the first interstate built, it was made wrong.

There is no base. The Turnpike keeps sinking and they just kept throwing more material on top.

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Can you cite your source for that info?
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:24 AM
 
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Can you cite your source for that info?
Sure can! My husband! Wanna come over for coffee?
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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The only problem I have with the TP is all the political appointments to the commission.
One of the legislators from (I think) Montgomery County wants to abolish the turnpike commission and fold maintenance of the turnpike into PennDot.

Naturally all the other legislators, whose dysfunctional brothers-in-law all have cushy jobs on the turnpike commission, will jump all over him and his idea will never see the light of day.

It's too bad. The turnpike commission and the liquor control board both are unnecessary and have got to go.
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:14 PM
 
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While the turnpike was revolutionary for 1940, it is hysterically bad now. It is one of the worst interstate type highways in the USA which is also interesting considering the tolls they charge for it.
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:33 PM
 
Location: SouthEastern PeeAye
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The only problem I have with the TP is all the political appointments to the commission. The money should be going to the workers, not the politicos. Seriously, how tough is it to maintain a highway?
The money does go to the so-called workers!
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One of the legislators from (I think) Montgomery County wants to abolish the turnpike commission and fold maintenance of the turnpike into PennDot.

Naturally all the other legislators, whose dysfunctional brothers-in-law all have cushy jobs on the turnpike commission, will jump all over him and his idea will never see the light of day.

It's too bad. The turnpike commission and the liquor control board both are unnecessary and have got to go.
I agree. I'll send a small donation and vote for anyone whose platform includes these two views.

Common jokes from 30 years ago in the Central and NE parts of the State: (Stop me if you've already heard them!), i.e., the usual barbershop/neighborhood barroom conversations:
Q: What's orange and sleeps five comfortably?
A: A Turnpike Commission truck.
Explanation: That's because all the cronies have a full time night job in addition to their day jobs with the TC, and ... well, they gotta get some sleep somewhere! What better place than in the back of a TC truck.

Q: The Turnpike Commission is actually going to have to lay off some workers!
A: No Way! Is that really true?
Q: Yea, because the {Japanase/Chinese/Koreans - pick one} have invented a shovel that stands upright by itself.
Explanation: Think about it! How many TC workers do you see standing around a on job doing nothing but holding onto the end of an upright shovel.
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Old 12-29-2009, 04:05 AM
 
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If maintaining highways is an indication of how healthcare will be managed, I think we'll be okay.

Afterall, the state maintains many highways very well. For instance, I79 and I80 are very nice.

The turnpike is only highway that is an utter disaster. It was built wrong. Not much can be done about it other than starting from scratch.
I-79 is a mess! There is constant construction and the quality of the road is horrible. Winter is the worst. For a northern state, PA doesn't clear off the roads very well. I don't know when you last drove I-80 across the state but that isn't in good shape either.

I noticed how you left out the highways (parking lots) in and around Pittsburgh. I take it you haven't been on I-376 lately either.

Do you drive at all?
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