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Old 04-08-2011, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Land of Free Johnson-Weld-2016
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I didn't do gross, but I just checked and I'm saving about 2/3's of my income each month? Granted I have dipped into my savings for my recent house expenses

Wow I'm saving that much...no wonder I never have any money.
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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its funny how people vilify "processed foods." most of them have no clue what they are talking about. "processing" doesnt do anything to harm the healthiness of food.
Except of course that it usually does.....

Our digestive system didn't develop around processed foods as a result many of these foods have negative consequences...
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:11 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Except of course that it usually does.....

Our digestive system didn't develop around processed foods as a result many of these foods have negative consequences...
except that is doesnt. processing is usually just changing the form of the food so they can make it into some final product. it has little to do with changing the nutritional composition of the foods.

"Foods that undergo slicing, dicing, cutting, chopping, cooking, mixing, grinding, smoking, drying, packaging, canning or other procedures that alter the food from its original state."
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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except that is doesnt. processing is usually just changing the form of the food so they can make it into some final product. it has little to do with changing the nutritional composition of the foods.
When people talk about processed foods they aren't talking about a food that has been cut, sliced, etc, under that definition every food is processed the minute you bite it. Instead they are talking about foods that are transformed via some industrial process, for example talking raw sugar and creating refined sugar.

Processing foods often changes the way the foods are metabolized, this is not to mention that most processed foods are packaged with chemicals to increase their shelf-life.
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:39 PM
 
Location: NJ
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When people talk about processed foods they aren't talking about a food that has been cut, sliced, etc, under that definition every food is processed the minute you bite it. Instead they are talking about foods that are transformed via some industrial process, for example talking raw sugar and creating refined sugar.

Processing foods often changes the way the foods are metabolized, this is not to mention that most processed foods are packaged with chemicals to increase their shelf-life.
how are they transforming the foods? what chemicals are added?
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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how are they transforming the foods? what chemicals are added?
Is this a serious question? I mean you really don't know about preservatives? I already mentioned a common food that is "transformed", that is refined sugar. The process used to create refined sugar is extensive and strips all the nutrition from the raw sugar to create a highly concentrated sucrose product. The end product is metabolized much different in the body than the original unprocessed ingredient.

Cane sugar mill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:22 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Is this a serious question? I mean you really don't know about preservatives? I already mentioned a common food that is "transformed", that is refined sugar. The process used to create refined sugar is extensive and strips all the nutrition from the raw sugar to create a highly concentrated sucrose product. The end product is metabolized much different in the body than the original unprocessed ingredient.

Cane sugar mill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
i know preservatives are used, i think people refer to them as "chemicals" to try to make them sound bad but utlimately the nutritional profile is not significantly changed by their addition. the same with refined sugar. its sugar when its natural, its sugar when its refined.
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:26 PM
 
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Is this a serious question? I mean you really don't know about preservatives? I already mentioned a common food that is "transformed", that is refined sugar. The process used to create refined sugar is extensive and strips all the nutrition from the raw sugar to create a highly concentrated sucrose product. The end product is metabolized much different in the body than the original unprocessed ingredient.

Cane sugar mill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think you are fighting a losing battle here.
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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its funny how people vilify "processed foods." most of them have no clue what they are talking about. "processing" doesn't do anything to harm the healthiness of food.
Well it depends on what your definition of processed is.

1. Anything which lots of weird unrecognizable ingredients isn't good for you
2. Canned or frozen food with lots of added sugar and salt isn't good either
3. Processing grains and removing all of the fiber isn't great either (rice, wheat, oats)
4. "Processing" but throwing in a bag and freezing or cooking and canning with few additives is a safe form of processing foods.

Unfortunately, #4 is the least common type of process food consumed.
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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the same with refined sugar. its sugar when its natural, its sugar when its refined.
This is entirely vacuous, "sugar" is a general term. In the case of refined sugar the refinement process strips all the nutrition from the raw sugar cane, what you are left with is sucrose. Now, the sucrose in the raw sugar cane is no different than the sucrose in refined sugar, but that doesn't change the fact that you strip all the other nutrients away to derive a pure sucrose product. Furthermore as stated, the two aren't metabolized in the same way.

Anyhow, your claim couldn't be further from the truth. But you are free to believe and think whatever you wish.
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