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Old 04-17-2012, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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^^ do you mean anyone else one the planet?

I'll go out on a limb and say "yes".
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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The Boglehead's Guide to Investing

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Where can I find such newsletters or what should I look for?

Or perhaps I should take a step back first. What can I read to get a better grasp on investing in general before I read the newsletters? Is there a good book that would cover the basics?
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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If your are currently under a 20% tax rate, Do the Roth 401k at your age, (tax rates have a LOW probability of decreasing). When you change employers, roll the 401k (Roth or traditional) to a self managed IRA (To save fees, and likely have similar investment choices. )

Always max your contribution (which will effectively be higher in a ROTH 401k). Run annual scenerios at tax time to determine if you can benefit from a deductable traditional IRA. In low tax yrs (unemployment / school / travel...) roll traditional IRA into ROTH.

Invest your aggressive money in the Roths (tax free gains).
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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Where can I find such newsletters or what should I look for?

Or perhaps I should take a step back first. What can I read to get a better grasp on investing in general before I read the newsletters? Is there a good book that would cover the basics?
i have been using fidelity insight for the better part of 25 years. they cater only to fidelity funds.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'll check out the boglehead book and the fidelity newsletter. Most of my income was in the 15% bracket last year with some in the 25% bracket. I know I'm fairly young but Im pretty sure I won't change employers the rest of my career if I have any say in the matter. I work for a great company and have no intentions of leaving.

I'm excited to start getting a better handle on this. I'll be happy when I can help determine my future retirement income vs a machine determining it.
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Old 04-22-2015, 05:42 PM
 
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You're missing the point. You argued that fees of 1.5% ate up only 1/4-1/3 of the potential gains. That is incorrect because you were not, in fact, considering the opportunity costs. Using the same hypo of 8% gain over 30 years on an investment of $30k, with the 0.07% ER of Vanguard Admiral shares, the final balance becomes $98535.

Your 1.5% ER leaves you a balance of $64000. So that 1.5% cost you $34535 over 30 years. In other words, 54% of the gain you would've gotten on the same investment with the lower ER.
Excellent demonstration. The expense is basically a reduction in returns, and as we all know, compounded returns can become quite large. This shows the net damage a high expense ratio can deal to your portfolio.
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Old 04-22-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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My employer offers both at a 6% match. Ive been doing the Roth but want to see if I'm doing the right thing. I am 33 now and am doing things to prepare for future promotions at work so I expect my income to increase over time.

What do I need to look at when choosing between the two? Any other info you need to help me make a decision?
Who is your employer, if you don't mind me asking?
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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There is nothing better than tax free growth. Another thing to consider is SS only gets taxed once you reach certain, very low, income levels. Even then the % of the tax increases with income. So it's far better to have that money in a Roth that is withdrawn without taxable income to lower your income totals.
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:14 AM
 
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the tax free growth as you saw in my examples prior could be irrelevant and the same in roth or traditional .

but tax free income is another story because so much in retirement is linked to it
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:38 AM
 
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There is nothing better than tax free growth. Another thing to consider is SS only gets taxed once you reach certain, very low, income levels. Even then the % of the tax increases with income. So it's far better to have that money in a Roth that is withdrawn without taxable income to lower your income totals.
How did you stumble upon this thread?
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