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Old 07-19-2013, 05:28 PM
 
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I put down our 12 year old lab a few years ago. She was ill and no hope to ever be a healthy dog again. She lived her life span, but I saw at the end that once a pet develops a serious illness it's beyond what I can afford. I'm caring for my elderly mom with dementia, and she asks every day when will we ever have a dog again. It's breaking my heart, but I'm just too afraid of getting another dog. My family was always lucky with our dogs over the years that they never ran up a lot of vet bills and only became ill towards the end of their life. My neighbors have had just the opposite experience. They've had five dogs in a row all get the worst sickness with brain tumors and various cancers. I could never afford care for something like that. I just don't see a way to have another dog again. It makes me sad though.
Maybe you could take in a foster dog. Many shelters will pay for food and vet care for dogs or cats that people will foster in their homes.

Our local humane society has a foster program. I know that greyhound rescue groups across the country also seek foster homes.

I have had a foster dog for over three years. I don't accept the food the human society would provide but when he needed surgery a vet that works with the humane society did it at no cost to me.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:23 PM
 
Location: On the sunny side of a mountain
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Maybe you could take in a foster dog. Many shelters will pay for food and vet care for dogs or cats that people will foster in their homes.

Our local humane society has a foster program. I know that greyhound rescue groups across the country also seek foster homes.

I have had a foster dog for over three years. I don't accept the food the human society would provide but when he needed surgery a vet that works with the humane society did it at no cost to me.
I think that would be a great idea, pets do have health benefits.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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Thank you for the foster dog suggestion. I may look into it. My mother is age 89 and at the stage where she is bad on her feet so it's not only her dementia that is an issue. One concern is her tripping over any potential new dog I might bring into the house. I think mentally a dog would help her. It's just a lot to think about trying to juggle what is best, and it is an issue that potential vet costs have to be considered.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Near Nashville TN
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Yikes. I've been on the phone getting quotes for rabies shots for 3 dogs. Rabies shots, only, nothing else.

The vet I have been using wanted $275, and that included a discount for bring in 3 dogs for one office visit..........

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I don't get it. The vets where I live in TN charge something like $20 for the rabies shot. At the yearly "rabies clinics" they can be had for as low as $5 but you may have to wait in line.
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:32 AM
 
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Vets have to raise their prices when their suppliers go up in price. While the majority of vets go into the business because they love animals, they still have bills to pay, families to raise, school loans to pay, etc.
A lot of people seem to think that vets should just comp a bill because the owner has no money (and some do) but would you do the same in your job?
I mean is there a plumber who is willing to come out and do free work just because I might have a clogged drain and have no money? Probably not.
Veterinarians work hard for not a lot of money (some make good money but not the majority) and they are usually taking care of animals that people have dumped on them and those animals usually have all kinds of medical issues.
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:53 AM
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Hmmm.... I had a vet that told me that pug dogs put his kids through college. At the time, my pug was in for her annual checkup. I was very lucky with her, she lived to be 16 years old with no major expenses until the end of her life.

My favorite and cheapest vet was a man who had a practice in Adamsville, TN. I used him after adopting three dogs from a local shelter. Shots and heartworm tests for the three were about $60. One of the dogs tested positive for heartworm and he told me that the southern way of treatment would only cost $350. Meanwhile, I'd heard that in MA it would cost $1500. Anyway, since I couldn't stay in TN for the treatment for my new dog, I had a small vet do the same procedure back home in MA for the same price. Basically, she got the dose of medication to kill the heartworms and then I kept her confined for ten days. And voila! That was it. Otherwise, in MA the vets want to do x-rays and ultrasounds before and after the treatment... and that's what I skipped having done. My dog was fine afterwards. I know that we caught it early since she never coughed beforehand and had great energy. But really, had the heartworm infestation been more advanced, what else could I have the vet do? And heart surgery wasn't going to be an option. Had she been weak, lethargic and coughed afterwards, I just would have let her have a sedentary lifestyle and made sure that she got a good diet but never was overweight.

The best thing that I do for my dogs is to keep them at optimal weight and I find that very easy to do. I just don't overfeed them. I am sad when I see overweight dogs.... it's hard on their joints and they are at risk for getting diabetes.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:12 PM
 
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I put down our 12 year old lab a few years ago. She was ill and no hope to ever be a healthy dog again. She lived her life span, but I saw at the end that once a pet develops a serious illness it's beyond what I can afford. I'm caring for my elderly mom with dementia, and she asks every day when will we ever have a dog again. It's breaking my heart, but I'm just too afraid of getting another dog. My family was always lucky with our dogs over the years that they never ran up a lot of vet bills and only became ill towards the end of their life. My neighbors have had just the opposite experience. They've had five dogs in a row all get the worst sickness with brain tumors and various cancers. I could never afford care for something like that. I just don't see a way to have another dog again. It makes me sad though.
please consider getting pet insurance before you give up on all the joy a dog has to offer. Do your homework though, because many that are cheapest also have the weakest coverage. I too have had 10 years of old dogs, cancer ridden dogs, rescue dogs with underlying undiagnosed health issues etc. and I admit I have spent a small fortune but to me they are worth it. Since I had so many expenses and I don't have a ton of extra cash lying around, I now will always carry pet insurance. I also HIGHLY recommend opening an account with CareCredit. They offer NO INTEREST (yes no interest!!!) financing for up to a year. Many vets especially emergency vets and specialist's offices accept CareCredit. As a bonus you can also use it for yourself at many dentists and a few other doctors (mostly cosmetic surgeons, dermatologists, etc) I first found out about it when I was treating a young dog I had for cancer and that was the only way I could afford the treatments. It bought me extra time with my beloved.

It has been proven that dogs are invaluable companions to the elderly and disabled so I think your mom would really benefit from another dog. Another option would be to FOSTER a dog thru a private rescue group. This way the rescue group is responsible for ALL the costs of the dog, including vet care...even food! Sometimes they get dogs that are virtually "unadoptable" and they would rather do a long term/permanent foster than unnecessarily put the dog down. My neighbor got an old basset hound like this for her husband with dementia. The dog has done wonders for him and it has cost them nothing. The rescue group is happy too because finding a foster home meant they had space to take in another dog off death row. You can look on Petfinder or do a search under your preferred breed's national club to find private rescues. Or you can ask at your local kill shelters. They know who the good rescue groups are. Some shelters have a foster program thru the shelter itself, usually shelters that are high kill have this, like Miami.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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Hmmm.... I had a vet that told me that pug dogs put his kids through college. At the time, my pug was in for her annual checkup. I was very lucky with her, she lived to be 16 years old with no major expenses until the end of her life.

My favorite and cheapest vet was a man who had a practice in Adamsville, TN. I used him after adopting three dogs from a local shelter. Shots and heartworm tests for the three were about $60. One of the dogs tested positive for heartworm and he told me that the southern way of treatment would only cost $350. Meanwhile, I'd heard that in MA it would cost $1500. Anyway, since I couldn't stay in TN for the treatment for my new dog, I had a small vet do the same procedure back home in MA for the same price. Basically, she got the dose of medication to kill the heartworms and then I kept her confined for ten days. And voila! That was it. Otherwise, in MA the vets want to do x-rays and ultrasounds before and after the treatment... and that's what I skipped having done. My dog was fine afterwards. I know that we caught it early since she never coughed beforehand and had great energy. But really, had the heartworm infestation been more advanced, what else could I have the vet do? And heart surgery wasn't going to be an option. Had she been weak, lethargic and coughed afterwards, I just would have let her have a sedentary lifestyle and made sure that she got a good diet but never was overweight.

The best thing that I do for my dogs is to keep them at optimal weight and I find that very easy to do. I just don't overfeed them. I am sad when I see overweight dogs.... it's hard on their joints and they are at risk for getting diabetes.
Please people, keep in mind that it is all Russian roulette with a heartworm positive dog....this is a serious condition and while treatments have advanced, it is still possible that the treatment process itself will kill the dog along with the heartworms. I adopted a dog who tested heartworm negative. He had a cough upon getting up and exercise intolerance to some degree. Since he was heartworm negative I (wrongly) assumed it was OK and the vet didn't find any signs of infection or cancer. Well, within 2 months he started having fainting epidodes. Each time he would let out a bloodcurdling wail and fall over unconscious, lose control of his bladder, etc. That first time I did not know if he would wake up, if it was a stroke, a heart attack ??? Well long story short I ended up at the specialist for a cardiac ultrasound and he found he had high pulmonary artery blood pressure which is a hallmark of damage from a previous heartworm infection. The vet said he would place money on the fact that at some point in the past the dog HAD been positive and was treated for a heartworm infection. Well that specialist does thousands of cardiac ultrasounds knew what he was talking about. I later found that yes indeed, the dog had been at a public shelter 3 years before and tested positive. A rescue group pulled him and treated him and adopted him out. Obviously he lived thru the treatment but the damage was *permanent and irreversible* in his case. I only was able to track this down because he had a microchip and the company gave me the info as to which shelter/rescue installed it. The jerks who adopted him dumped him with a different rescue group (despite the contract they signed that specified return to the group that adopted to them) and they never even mentioned the heartworm treatment to the new rescue. So that rescue didn't know and I adopted him not knowing. I loved that dog dearly and despite spending 10K at the specialists and for the many medicines he was on, he only lived a year. Even if the infection is labeled "light" (they now quantify the level of infection rather than simply saying positive) you still just never know if the dog will have permanent damage......if you adopt a dog, remember that just because he tests negative at the time doesn't mean that in the past he did not have heartworms and was treated. At this time there is no test I know of that can tell you whether he was previously positive and then treated. I was blindsided. I am still heartbroken. A heartworm infection is not to be taken lightly.
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:04 PM
 
Location: DC/NYC
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Actually, In the AMERICAN judicial and legal system pets are considered a luxury for people. So that would mean that only well earning americans are allowed pets. If in a legal case a person who cannot afford pet care, housing, bills, etc and goes into bankruptcy the courts will look at the pets as a luxury and not count that expense.

It seems like America is getting more and more unfair. I know that in latin America vaccinations are free for pets. America is just getting more and more greedy, more and more controlled, more and more everything unfair.

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Yikes. I've been on the phone getting quotes for rabies shots for 3 dogs. Rabies shots, only, nothing else.

The vet I have been using wanted $275, and that included a discount for bring in 3 dogs for one office visit.

The next vet wanted $204 for the shots.

I was quoted $475 to do 3 rabies blood titres. I didn't even ask how much for shipping papers. If just shots are over $200, then shipping papers for 3 dogs is probably over $200.

I know that vets have expenses, office, staff, electric bill, insurance, but that is one heck of a mark-up.

I'm suspecting that if absolutely necessary care is going to cost this much that many pet owners are going to be putting off essential care like vaccinations and spay/neuter.
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Old 08-10-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Manhattan, Ks
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It seems like America is getting more and more unfair. I know that in latin America vaccinations are free for pets.
Do you have a link or can you tell me where to find where vaccinations are free for pets in Latin America? Are they provided by the government(s)? Donated by the manufacturers? How does this work?
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