No Diversity in Philadelphia suburbs? (Chester, Drexel Hill: homes, private schools, standard of living)

[Rstaylor92]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

same thing would happen to a white family if they moved into a predominately black area like.. Say.. Willingboro in the burbs.. This crap goes BOTH ways ..

I guess that "crap" makes it ok...

[john_starks]

Originally Posted by Rstaylor92

I guess that "crap" makes it ok...

lol - of course you can say that if you lived in manhattan.

let me guess, you grew up in...

[Rstaylor92]

Originally Posted by john_starks

lol - of course you can say that if you lived in manhattan.

let me guess, you grew up in...

Grew up where?.. I currently live in Manhattan, I grew up in Delaware County. .. and no matter what anyone on this post says there is no way to justify the things that happened there.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by Rstaylor92

Grew up where?.. I currently live in Manhattan, I grew up in Delaware County. .. and no matter what anyone on this post says there is no way to justify the things that happened there.

Discrimination is wrong no matter who the victims are (so you're both right ). That being said, I'm very curious as to where specifically you grew up. Was it Havertown by chance? No offense to any Havertowners, but I know it's very much a "white ethnic" kind of place. You can PM me if you'd prefer.

[Rstaylor92]

Originally Posted by HeavenWood

Discrimination is wrong no matter who the victims are (so you're both right ). That being said, I'm very curious as to where specifically you grew up. Was it Havertown by chance? No offense to any Havertowners, but I know it's very much a "white ethnic" kind of place. You can PM me if you'd prefer.

Oh I grew up in Brookhaven (which was actually a very nice town) but we bought a house that bordered Parkside and Brookhaven, most of the hate I have experienced has been in that specific area. It was fairly close to Havertown... but I never lived in Havertown. Delaware County is a very backwards place.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by Rstaylor92

Oh I grew up in Brookhaven (which was actually a very nice town) but we bought a house that bordered Parkside and Brookhaven, most of the hate I have experienced has been in that specific area. It was fairly close to Havertown... but I never lived in Havertown. Delaware County is a very backwards place.

We have family friends in Brookhaven. It always seemed like a typical, solidly middle class suburb. While playing with the kids, their friends used to crack Jew jokes (knowing I was Jewish) so I could definitely see a black person having issues there.

Still, I don't think you can just generalize all of Delaware County as "backward." It's far from uniform.

[BPP1999]

Originally Posted by HeavenWood

We have family friends in Brookhaven. It always seemed like a typical, solidly middle class suburb. While playing with the kids, their friends used to crack Jew jokes (knowing I was Jewish) so I could definitely see a black person having issues there.

Still, I don't think you can just generalize all of Delaware County as "backward." It's far from uniform.

Agree with both comments. However, if the OP thinks that Irish kids don't make fun of and slander Italians, and vice versa, then they are kidding themselves. Also, if the OP thinks that there are no Italians in Brooklyn or Staten Island that harbor resentment and bad feelings against blacks, they are really kidding yourself. Just because you've moved to almighty NYC does not mean that you will no longer experience overt racism.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by BPP1999

Agree with both comments. However, if the OP thinks that Irish kids don't make fun of and slander Italians, and vice versa, then they are kidding themselves. Also, if the OP thinks that there are no Italians in Brooklyn or Staten Island that harbor resentment and bad feelings against blacks, they are really kidding yourself. Just because you've moved to almighty NYC does not mean that you will no longer experience overt racism.

Certainly, there used to be a lot of overt tension between white ethnics, but in this day and age, it's largely simmered down. This is due to a variety of factors, including suburbanization, intermarriage, mixed ethnic parishes, etc.

Racial issues in this country, however much we have advanced since the Civil Rights Movement, remain far more complicated. This is due to a whole host of reasons, but we can essentially boil them all down into one giant factor: most people, no matter their particular background, by and large prefer to stick among "their own."

I doubt Rstaylor is saying NYC is better in of itself (and if he is, he's just kidding himself). But he's probably living in a neighborhood that's more accepting than where he grew up.

[Rstaylor92]

Originally Posted by HeavenWood

Certainly, there used to be a lot of overt tension between white ethnics, but in this day and age, it's largely simmered down. This is due to a variety of factors, including suburbanization, intermarriage, mixed ethnic parishes, etc.

Racial issues in this country, however much we have advanced since the Civil Rights Movement, remain far more complicated. This is due to a whole host of reasons, but we can essentially boil them all down into one giant factor: most people, no matter their particular background, by and large prefer to stick among "their own."

I doubt Rstaylor is saying NYC is better in of itself (and if he is, he's just kidding himself). But he's probably living in a neighborhood that's more accepting than where he grew up.

I am a "she" lol, and you are correct, I do love living in NYC it's very different, it is better for me but that may not be the case for others, but I still know people who live in this area and they are great! I lived in Brooklyn right before moving to PA I feel like that would make a little biased you know? but like I said before it just kind of depends on what you prefer.

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by Rstaylor92

I am a "she" lol, and you are correct, I do love living in NYC it's very different, it is better for me but that may not be the case for others, but I still know people who live in this area and they are great! I lived in Brooklyn right before moving to PA I feel like that would make a little biased you know? but like I said before it just kind of depends on what you prefer.

Sorry for calling you by the wrong gender.

I would still say that community life in Delaware County is quite varied. Chadds Ford is much different from Radnor, which is much different from Havertown, which is much different from Upper Darby, which is much different from Chester...

And the list goes on and on.