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Old 09-02-2015, 06:36 AM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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One thing that's sort of interesting/related is that at the same time retail practices are shifting, there's also a huge rise in the popularity of urban living, and many cities' downtowns are seeing a lot of investment and new life. Good news for the future, and helping spur great things in Philly.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:36 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Well, I didn't say all, I said typically. It's just the way that retail is heading.
Go to a given store's website and look for the flagship store locations. They are usually, as I said, in big cities not suburban malls. Granted, different cities are organized differently, but that goes without saying.
Old Navy, for example, since it was discussed in this thread has its flagship stores in NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, and the Mall of America (ie an aforementioned "destination mall").
After the KoP expansion is finished, it will actually have more flagship spots than CC, all high-end minus the new jumbo Target. I love KoP, but that is the main reason why CC retail is slow to evolve, not because of NYC.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Actiually, in LA, the real high-end shopping is on a "high street" too - it's just not one in downtown LA.

It's Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills.
Ah, yes, very true. As you note, though, I guess because Rodeo Drive is outside of the downtown LA core, I don't think of it in the same vein as other large cities. Similar to M street in Georgetown or Wisconsin Avenue in Friendship Heights for DC.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:51 AM
 
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After the KoP expansion is finished, it will actually have more flagship spots than CC, all high-end minus the new jumbo Target. I love KoP, but that is the main reason why CC retail is slow to evolve, not because of NYC.
Haven't we talked about KoP enough as is and its impact on CC retail? Sure, it's an ongoing story but it really is tiresome.....well, it is to me.
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Old 09-02-2015, 09:24 AM
 
Location: NYC based - Used to Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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Well, I didn't say all, I said typically. It's just the way that retail is heading.
Go to a given store's website and look for the flagship store locations. They are usually, as I said, in big cities not suburban malls. Granted, different cities are organized differently, but that goes without saying.
Old Navy, for example, since it was discussed in this thread has its flagship stores in NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, and the Mall of America (ie an aforementioned "destination mall").
I agree with this.
Dior, Louboutin and Burberry, etc flagship stores are usually in Miami core. And then we have smaller version of these stores in "suburban" areas like Aventura, Miami Beach, and Bal Harbor.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:23 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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I know I will get HAMMERED.... but I still say part of the reason Chestnut or Walnut. Are not getting the Big Gun Retailers like the Bloomingdale's and Burberry's or Neiman Marcus, Saks? Is Lack of a High-End looking venue and Space. These streets still don't have that look. They are not Boulevard or Avenue worthy streets. It gets some smaller versions? Like the Zara store?

Perhaps just a FIRST Brand New Larger Big Guns Retailer will start it. A New Skyscraper could have one incorporated? The City is Dressing up Broad Street. It needs a DRESS UP Walnut and Chestnut. New streetlights.... maybe antique looking versions? Walnut and Chestnut already are some of the highest per Sq. Ft. Streets in the nation. Without them...

Chicago was Lucky to have some of its original old street lights in a old warehouse to restore. Surely since the whole Loop Downtown got them. Some are Reproductions. Its 50s War of the Worlds looking ones on State Street yet in the very early 80s... WERE UGGGGLLLY. Now its CLASS again. But North Michigan Ave the True Big Guns Avenue. did not. It remained more contemporary, but surely Classy. It got the Big Dog Retailers to build all new Stores and some in new Skyscrapers.

I'm sure they want some lures and deals.... like City Tax Breaks. It is the American Way.....

Here it comes.....
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:27 AM
 
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I know I will get HAMMERED.... but I still say part of the reason Chestnut or Walnut. Are not getting the Big Gun Retailers like the Bloomingdale's and Burberry's or Neiman Marcus, Saks? Is Lack of a High-End looking venue and Space. These streets still don't have that look. They are not Boulevard or Avenue worthy streets. It gets some smaller versions? Like the Zara store?

Perhaps just a FIRST Brand New Larger Big Guns Retailer will start it. A New Skyscraper could have one incorporated? The City is Dressing up Broad Street. It needs a DRESS UP Walnut and Chestnut. New streetlights.... maybe antique looking versions? Walnut and Chestnut already are some of the highest per Sq. Ft. Streets in the nation. Without them...

Chicago was Lucky to have some of its original old street lights in a old warehouse to restore. Surely since the whole Loop Downtown got them. Some are Reproductions. Its 50s War of the Worlds looking ones on State Street yet in the very early 80s... WERE UGGGGLLLY. Now its CLASS again. But North Michigan Ave the True Big Guns Avenue. did not. It remained more contemporary, but surely Classy. It got the Big Dog Retailers to build all new Stores and some in new Skyscrapers.

I'm sure they want some lures and deals.... like City Tax Breaks. It is the American Way.....

Here it comes.....
If you are afraid of a a negative responses STOP POSTING HERE.

Once again you are comparing a place that has NEVER had a major physical catastrophe in its entire history with a place that was virtually destroyed by fire. That provided an opportunity to create the avenues you think are superior.

And new street lighting has been installed on many Center City streets.
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Old 09-03-2015, 07:02 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Pa. liquor store to open next to Target near 11th and Chestnut

No Trader Joes

But this will replace the gritty wine and spirits at 11th and Chestnut, opening that space up for future development.
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Old 09-03-2015, 08:04 AM
 
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Pa. liquor store to open next to Target near 11th and Chestnut

No Trader Joes

But this will replace the gritty wine and spirits at 11th and Chestnut, opening that space up for future development.
Isn't there some kind of food market coming to the Market St development?
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Old 09-03-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Isn't there some kind of food market coming to the Market St development?
MOMS organic market. Thats nice too, I just like grabbing quick things at Trader Joes, except the one at West Market is always mobbed.
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