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Old 12-18-2015, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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There was also the Three Threes and the Garden which were both near 16th and Spruce.
I think southbound_295 was conflating the Three Threes (which was at that address on South Hicks Street) with Top of Centre Square, one of a number of restaurants Stouffer's operated that were located on top of tall office buildings in cities. (Its Boston sister was Top of the Hub atop the Prudential Tower; ISTR there was also one in Stouffer's home city of Cleveland.)
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Old 12-18-2015, 06:52 AM
 
Location: NYC based - Used to Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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No, the space in question is NOT the former Ruth's Chris location. That's the Atlantic Building, at 260 South Broad - which is also being converted to residential above, commercial on lower two floors.

The building is shown in the photograph accompanying the Business Journal story. The space is in what had been called the Avenue of the Arts Building and is being renamed the Griffin by the developer of the residential portion.

The street-floor portion of the space housed the Olive Garden until this past summer. Floors 2 and 3 are being marketed along with that space.

The interesting thing about this is, the commercial space is owned by someone other than the developer of the rest of the building. By contrast, Post Brothers is redoing all of The Atlantic Building.

Seems we have a crop of former restaurants on the market along the Avenue of the Arts.

Kevin Sbraga, Carl Dranoff's favorite restaurateur, couldn't make a go of Juniper Commons (corner space in Dranoff's Southstar Lofts at Broad and South) and MSC Retail is currently marketing it.

Tashan, the modern Indian eatery in Dranoff's 777 South Broad, also closed this summer after a decent run.

I would love to know what ideas the Pestronks have in mind for the two street-floor spaces at 260 S. Broad.
I thought Tashan had closed for a while.
I remember I went there last year to try and they were close already.
Regardless, what a bummer!

It is such a shame. It was great addition to that area.
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Old 12-18-2015, 06:53 AM
 
Location: NYC based - Used to Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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Atlantic Refining and Marketing Company was yet another remnant of the breakup of the Standard Oil trust.

Actually, after the two companies merged to form Atlantic Richfield, the gas stations were soon rebranded ARCO. In this market, the company was one of the first to convert its gas stations from repair shops to convenience stores; they were called AM/PM Mini Markets.

BP, IIRC, acquired only part of the company. Its East Coast gas station network ended up in the hands of Sunoco, which briefly revived the Atlantic name and branded the convenience stores as "A Plus" before converting all the stations to Sunoco outlets.
Interesting info!
Always love to know the origin of the names and history of the buildings.
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Old 12-18-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I think southbound_295 was conflating the Three Threes (which was at that address on South Hicks Street) with Top of Centre Square, one of a number of restaurants Stouffer's operated that were located on top of tall office buildings in cities. (Its Boston sister was Top of the Hub atop the Prudential Tower; ISTR there was also one in Stouffer's home city of Cleveland.)
I readily admit that I don't remember the name & may have conflated two names. I just remember the address was in the name & it was way out of my price range as an art student. I only knew about it because my boyfriend's father used to go there occasionally. Anyway, the restaurant scene was bleak at best. I remember going into an Automat once to see what they had. It was not something that the younger posters could even fathom.
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Old 12-18-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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There used to be an Atlantic oil company based in Philly and the Richfield oil company out west. They merged in the 1960s to form Atlantic Richfield (ARCO). ARCO carried the Atantic brand of gasoline in the east and the Richfield brand out west. BP took them over in the 90s and the brands disappeared.
Pine to Vine wins! Yippee! Lol
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Old 12-18-2015, 10:11 AM
 
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I think southbound_295 was conflating the Three Threes (which was at that address on South Hicks Street) with Top of Centre Square, one of a number of restaurants Stouffer's operated that were located on top of tall office buildings in cities. (Its Boston sister was Top of the Hub atop the Prudential Tower; ISTR there was also one in Stouffer's home city of Cleveland.)
No, the restaurant she and I are thinking of was on S. Smedley St. between 16th and 17th Sts between Spruce and Pine.
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Old 12-18-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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No, the restaurant she and I are thinking of was on S. Smedley St. between 16th and 17th Sts between Spruce and Pine.
That sounds about right. I know it was nearish to PCA. I remember walking past it one day & it dawned on me that the name came from the street number. I was at PCA from '69 - '73. I don't feel badly that my memory of it is hazy.

Did Perrier start out on Pine St.? I knew someone who got a job at a new upscale restaurant in '72 that was on Pine. I think it was on the 1600 or 1700 block.
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Old 12-18-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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I readily admit that I don't remember the name & may have conflated two names. I just remember the address was in the name & it was way out of my price range as an art student. I only knew about it because my boyfriend's father used to go there occasionally. Anyway, the restaurant scene was bleak at best. I remember going into an Automat once to see what they had. It was not something that the younger posters could even fathom.
Correct! They have NO idea how much the current restaurant scene grew from practically NOTHING.
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Old 12-18-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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That sounds about right. I know it was nearish to PCA. I remember walking past it one day & it dawned on me that the name came from the street number. I was at PCA from '69 - '73. I don't feel badly that my memory of it is hazy.

Did Perrier start out on Pine St.? I knew someone who got a job at a new upscale restaurant in '72 that was on Pine. I think it was on the 1600 or 1700 block.
I went to Peirce(formerly Jr)College for one year, '69-'70, so we probably " saw" each other. Lol

Perrier, afaik, started in the space where Tequila's is now on Locust. St. Then he opened the first Le Bec Fin, where Vetri's is now, on Spruce St.
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Old 12-18-2015, 05:38 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Correct! They have NO idea how much the current restaurant scene grew from practically NOTHING.
LOL, I had some money for food, which was generally $1or less, but was headed off to do some Christmas shopping between classes. I went in to see what could be had at the automat but it & the selections were so dismal that I just left. I probably swung by the deli on 15th St after my shopping excursion. When I went in there I usually got a pickle from the barrel & a bottle of coke as that was what I could afford. That would have beat the automat, hands down. Maybe I got a hot dog at Woolworths. The automat was memorable, but not in a good way.
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