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Old 12-19-2015, 08:30 AM
 
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Peter von Starck owned La Panetiere. Perrier had nothing to do with it. After von Starck died it became a New Orleans style restaurant until Tequilas moved there.
Are you sure about that? Afaik, Perrier didn't have his own place when he came here initially.
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:32 AM
 
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It was a very good Jewish deli. Most of the rich students were from NYC & a few were foreign. The NYers loved that deli.
There's also the Spruce Market around the corner which was another Jewish deli. It's still there.
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:42 AM
 
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Oooops. I forgot that Perrier worked for von Stark. I just knew that he was not one of the owners.

The Spruce Market was not really a deli, but a very fine market where you could get great meats to order. I used to get custom cut steaks about 2" thick.
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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Oooops. I forgot that Perrier worked for von Stark. I just knew that he was not one of the owners.

The Spruce Market was not really a deli, but a very fine market where you could get great meats to order. I used to get custom cut steaks about 2" thick.
That's not happening there now, I'm sure.
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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The music school you mention was Philadelphia Musical Academy which merged with PCA to create UArts. Since southbound_295 is an alum of PCA, she's probably familiar with that merger.

Perrier, afaik, started at La Panetiere. The proprietor, Peter VanStark(sp) brought him over from Lyons, France. Again... Afaik. After La Panetiere that space became the Magnolia Cafe during the 80s.

Yes, I mentioned Steve Poses. Ah, nope, the first Frog was in the building where Monk's is now on 16th. Then it moved to Locust. And, it ran, concurrently, with the Commissary.

New people to the city and area, and younger people, simply have no idea how courageous these people were. They helped turn a "food desert", which is what Phila. was, in to what we have now.
Students at the music school could get a diploma or a degree. If they wanted the degree, the school had an agreement with PCA. We had them in our liberal arts classes.

PCA owned property across Broad from the Haviland building. Some liberal arts classes were on the 2nd floor under Cameo Parkway records & over a drug store & a porn shop.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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There's also the Spruce Market around the corner which was another Jewish deli. It's still there.
When the weather was warm some of the art students of more modest means would go to the Smedley delicatessen & buy a beer. That provided some intermingling with students from Philadelphia Wireless.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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I tried to google to see if I could find a mention of that restaurant. Found a mention of Tippy's Taco House. The writer only remembered it as Taco House. It was near Paul's Pizza. I don't think that I can post that website on here, but searching on a sentence or two of the description should bring it up.

3. Taco House, 1100 block Pine Street. Another hole-in-the-wall. For decades, the preferred eatery, job provider, and gallery for PCA students. It was hard to spend $5.00 for two people. For those who remember, two words: cheese crisp (cc). Their chile con queso (ccq) was the best anywhere. Tacos? Please. You didn't want to look too closely at the surroundings (bare brick walls, and not the intentional kind), or use the bathroom, but the food was awesome. I've never been able to find a Mexican restaurant that came close, especially at the price.
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Old 12-19-2015, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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That's the one. The rich kids used to go there & get sandwiches. The rest of us would go get a pickle & a bottle of Coke. I haven't been there for a few years. The last time I was in town I split my time between the Free Library & the City Archives so didn't get by there. I didn't want to assume it was still there.
The funny thing is, I don't think the sandwiches at the Latimer Deli are all that expensive.

But at the two "authentic" Jewish delis I know in the city* (Famous 4th Street and Kaufman's 19th Street, which started out as an in-city branch of Famous 4th Street), the sandwiches are very pricey - $12-14 for the small ones and $18-20 for the big ones.

I don't think they cost that much in New York.

Maybe I should see what they charge at Rachel's Nosherei.

*I've also seen the menu at Hymie's Merion Deli in Merion Station, which is pretty damn authentic if you ask me. Prices nowhere near that stratospheric.
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Old 12-19-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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Schlesinger's Jewish style deli in the 1500 block of Locust St. is less pricey than either Famous or Kaufman's and portions are a decent size.

Latimer's sandwiches are kind of skimpy for what they cost.
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Old 12-19-2015, 03:16 PM
 
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The funny thing is, I don't think the sandwiches at the Latimer Deli are all that expensive.

But at the two "authentic" Jewish delis I know in the city* (Famous 4th Street and Kaufman's 19th Street, which started out as an in-city branch of Famous 4th Street), the sandwiches are very pricey - $12-14 for the small ones and $18-20 for the big ones.

I don't think they cost that much in New York.

Maybe I should see what they charge at Rachel's Nosherei.

*I've also seen the menu at Hymie's Merion Deli in Merion Station, which is pretty damn authentic if you ask me. Prices nowhere near that stratospheric.
Huh? Of course you wouldn't think that the sandwiches are expensive. I was referring to '69 -'73 when I was an art student at PCA. I posted that my food money was usually $1 or less. Even back then you couldn't get one of their sandwiches for $1. kyb & I have been trying to paint a picture of things as they were to contrast it with the present.

When people complain about things it's easier for them to understand that it's better if we paint pictures of what it was either before they moved to Philadelphia or before they were born.
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