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OK whatever, but I think Wine & Spirits stores contribute something to culture, in the form of our culinary heritage. Chain drugstores are a blight on the landscape. We have so many of them that sometimes they are feet away from one another. For example, on Spring Garden Street near 5th Street, a CVS is only separated from a Rite Aid by a small side street. And a Dollar General, which is like a drugstore without a pharmacy or medical products, is a block away. I wasn't proposing to double the number of Wine & Spirits stores in the city, but replace many existing ones, which the fact is are very dingy.
Also, Center City is without a decent-sized supermarket, and I wish the Kmart at the Gallery could be a Giant or ShopRite instead. Ideally a Wegmans would be nice, but while a Wegmans with all your basic grocery needs could fit where the Kmart is, a store up to the standards many people have come to expect from Wegmans wouldn't fit. Perhaps the Kmart could become a Giant and the Burlington Coat Factory close by (it was a JCPenney years ago) could become a ShopRite. There certainly are enough people to support both of them. What are Kmart and Burlington doing in Center City in the first place? Both of them are a disgrace. And the Kmart used to be a Gimbels, a decent department store, then a Stern's, similar to Gimbels, then a Clover, which at least was like a cross between Target and Kohl's, and was owned by Strawbridge's.
turn the kmart into a giant and the burlington coat factory into a shoprite? what in the world are you talking about? the gallery is a shopping mall. whoever heard of two grocery stores anchoring a shopping mall? this is almost more illogical than your desire to turn every chain pharmacy in philadelphia into a liquor store.
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What about a Sam's Club where either the Kmart or Burlington is? And what about a Dillard's (a great California department store chain) in the space occupied by many small stores at the Gallery right now? I also would like to see the smaller Wine & Spirits stores in the city become Metro PCS cell phone stores. Also perhaps the awful Ace Hardware on Fairmount could end up as a Jo-Ann Fabrics.
Turn the comcast center into a build-a-bear! The art museum should be an arbys! What in the world are you talking about?
This is a thread that is meant to contain actual news of actual retail coming to Philadelphia. Please do not fill it with your bizarre fantasies. Why in the world do you want more MetroPCS stores? None of this is happening! Isn't it enough that you have you like 20 threads of your own filled with totally illogical, never happening, retail wishes? Do you have to throw this thread off track?
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Yes, let's do away with the free market, confiscate people's businesses and replace them with state-run stores stocked with a limited selection of items chosen by an unelected bureaucracy. Last I heard, that business model didn't fare too well for the former communist states.
Thanks for providing the chuckle of the day!
yea it's madness. I mean I personally don't think the free market is the be all end all answer to everything. I for example believe that the city should seize the property of those who refuse to pay property taxes and/or allow their property to rot away and sit vacant for decades, blighting the neighborhood. Seizing the property of a tax paying, law abiding businesses though? what in the world? and to make way for state stores of all things? just totally delusional.
I think to get the true feel of this guy's posts you should imagine them as some type of manifesto scrawled on the side of a men's room stall door.
This is thread that is meant to contain actual news of actual retail coming to Philadelphia. Please do not fill it with your bizarre fantasies. Isn't it enough that have you like 20 threads of your own filled with totally illogical, never happening, retail wishes? Do you have to throw this thread off track?
I think to get the true feel of this guy's posts you should imagine them as some type of manifesto scrawled on the side of a men's room stall door.
I would rep you again but can't. Thanks for the reminder to stick to the true premise of the thread v responding to the illogical, incoherent and/or simply bizarre ramblings on recent pages.
Last I checked, this country was supposed to be a democracy, where the people should at least get to express what they want. Same with this website. I don't mean to hijack or monopolize anyone else's threads. However, I prefer to keep established threads active instead of starting new ones. And as for my ideas, I only borrow and chop up other retail minds' ideas.
Also, to clarify, most drugstores are about the same size as most liquor stores. And in the suburbs, it's not unusual to see older, smaller Walmart/Kmart type stores close and morph into supermarkets, older supermarkets close and morph into drugstores, older drugstores close and morph into liquor stores, etc. The user Cpomp on here had the idea that became my idea of Dillard's. Also, Sam's Club fills a similar niche as does Kmart, but a Sam's Club in the Gallery would keep out trash because they don't have the money to buy a membership and buy bulk products. Supermarkets in malls also exist, but are not too common. Look at ShopRite at Cheltenham Square Mall for example. The city having so many poor people though, supermarkets are more fitting than, say, a Dolce & Gabbana store. A Wine & Spirits store in Folcroft closed and became a Metro PCS store. And a Jo-Ann Fabrics would be an appropriate fit for a similar location to an Ace Hardware because both Jo-Ann and Ace are very flexible with adopting their store sizes, selection, etc to different urban, suburban, rural settings. Coincidentally, it might be PERFECT for an Ace to end up a Jo-Ann because both companies sell Husqvarna machinery. Husqvarna is a Japanese company that makes sewing machines, which in the US are sold exclusively at Jo-Ann stores, and Husqvarna also makes power equipment such as lawn tractors which are sold mostly through Ace, True Value, and Do it Best hardware stores.
Also, to clarify, most drugstores are about the same size as most liquor stores. And in the suburbs, it's not unusual to see older, smaller Walmart/Kmart type stores close and morph into supermarkets, older supermarkets close and morph into drugstores, older drugstores close and morph into liquor stores, etc. The user Cpomp on here had the idea that became my idea of Dillard's. Also, Sam's Club fills a similar niche as does Kmart, but a Sam's Club in the Gallery would keep out trash because they don't have the money to buy a membership and buy bulk products. Supermarkets in malls also exist, but are not too common. Look at ShopRite at Cheltenham Square Mall for example. The city having so many poor people though, supermarkets are more fitting than, say, a Dolce & Gabbana store. A Wine & Spirits store in Folcroft closed and became a Metro PCS store. And a Jo-Ann Fabrics would be an appropriate fit for a similar location to an Ace Hardware because both Jo-Ann and Ace are very flexible with adopting their store sizes, selection, etc to different urban, suburban, rural settings. Coincidentally, it might be PERFECT for an Ace to end up a Jo-Ann because both companies sell Husqvarna machinery. Husqvarna is a Japanese company that makes sewing machines, which in the US are sold exclusively at Jo-Ann stores, and Husqvarna also makes power equipment such as lawn tractors which are sold mostly through Ace, True Value, and Do it Best hardware stores.
The spaces are meant for retail, they're not generic big boxes like in the suburbs. The whole environment of east Market is built out for high density retail/office.
Last I checked, this country was supposed to be a democracy, where the people should at least get to express what they want. Same with this website. I don't mean to hijack or monopolize anyone else's threads. However, I prefer to keep established threads active instead of starting new ones. And as for my ideas, I only borrow and chop up other retail minds' ideas.
My main issue is not that you have terrible ideas, though they are terrible ideas, but rather this is not a thread for baseless and unsubstantiated retail ideas. This thread is for legitimate news about retail coming to Philadelphia. If you have actual news, feel free to post it here. Ideas that have no basis in the actual world do not belong here. Put them into their own thread or you can return to the system you had before you found this forum and scrawl them onto the wall of your padded cell.
Why are you implying I was a prisoner? Anyway I get the idea you are a SOCK PUPPET of a certain member of this site with a name starting with "JHG" but I don't remember the rest of it. One of his interests is also the Phillies. He trolled me for my interest in a new Wine & Spirits store in Wayne which very likely will open but I can't be 99% sure.
Also, to clarify, most drugstores are about the same size as most liquor stores. And in the suburbs, it's not unusual to see older, smaller Walmart/Kmart type stores close and morph into supermarkets, older supermarkets close and morph into drugstores, older drugstores close and morph into liquor stores, etc. The user Cpomp on here had the idea that became my idea of Dillard's. Also, Sam's Club fills a similar niche as does Kmart, but a Sam's Club in the Gallery would keep out trash because they don't have the money to buy a membership and buy bulk products. Supermarkets in malls also exist, but are not too common. Look at ShopRite at Cheltenham Square Mall for example. The city having so many poor people though, supermarkets are more fitting than, say, a Dolce & Gabbana store. A Wine & Spirits store in Folcroft closed and became a Metro PCS store. And a Jo-Ann Fabrics would be an appropriate fit for a similar location to an Ace Hardware because both Jo-Ann and Ace are very flexible with adopting their store sizes, selection, etc to different urban, suburban, rural settings. Coincidentally, it might be PERFECT for an Ace to end up a Jo-Ann because both companies sell Husqvarna machinery. Husqvarna is a Japanese company that makes sewing machines, which in the US are sold exclusively at Jo-Ann stores, and Husqvarna also makes power equipment such as lawn tractors which are sold mostly through Ace, True Value, and Do it Best hardware stores.
See this is where I have the problem, because you havent done your research. Like I said many times its about location! Philadelphia has A LOT of wealthy people that can support upscale retail. I guarantee you if a Dolce and Gabbana opened along Walnut St near Rittenhouse it would do great. A Dolce and Gabbana in the gallery no, walnut st yes. Again its location. You wouldnt but a super market on Walnut St would you? No you put a Lacoste, Burberry, Coach, etc.. And Philadelphia needs more upscale retail, there is the demand for it and it is slowly coming. I think dumpy stores like Kmart need to go, you seem to want to keep everything cheap and low class. You confuse me. Even in the nicest of areas you suggest a store that caters to lower income people... And if your trying to improve the gallery a Shoprite and JoAnne Fabric is not going to swing it. You need some moderately priced clothing stores and some nicer restaurants, and renovate the appearance.
Sorry to everyone else for going off topic, but I needed to respond.
OK two things: first of all, I wasn't suggesting the Gallery stay "cheap and low class". Rather, I would like to see the Gallery move a step up, from cheap and low class as it now is, to be middle class. But upscale stores, except for an upscale department store, let's say Dillard's, would be unfair to the many lower-income (but honest and decent) people who live in the area. And the only site I was recommending Jo-Ann Fabrics for is on Fairmount Avenue, which isn't actually in Center City but is in a "nice" (but rough compared to most suburbs) area near Brewerytown.
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