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Old 08-10-2018, 07:22 PM
 
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Thanks to the last 3 posters. I do see some overlap between the two in terms of drawing tourists (and locals) for delicious grub to be consumed on site. Here are two areas in which there will be no competition, however:

- RTM sells a lot of produce, meat and other foodstuffs locals buy to cook at home.
- The Bourse will (presumably?) be open in the evening, long after RTM locks its doors at 6 pm.
One thing to consider is that their locations, while not technically far, service a different crowd. I've stopped into the Bourse before, and the only reason I did was because RTM was just too far to go to support what I was doing. I think they will compliment each other nicely.
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Center City
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One thing to consider is that their locations, while not technically far, service a different crowd. I've stopped into the Bourse before, and the only reason I did was because RTM was just too far to go to support what I was doing. I think they will compliment each other nicely.
Yea, I’m sorta convinced . . . to a point. But something to remember is that RTM is currently the most visited tourist attraction in the city, outdrawing even Independence NP: https://www.visitphilly.com/articles...-philadelphia/. It’s easy enough to envision a subset of Old City tourists who now trek to RTM for lunch instead choosing the Bourse. This isn’t a bad thing, but I do think it’s a thing.

I don’t think either will hamper the other’s success, however. The city is big enough to support both.
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I just hope it's not entirely tourist specific. The initial description when the announced it was to be similiar to the Chelsea market in NY.

If that's true, it'll be great. If it's basically a new looking food court, I'll be bummed.
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Old 08-12-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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I just hope it's not entirely tourist specific. The initial description when the announced it was to be similiar to the Chelsea market in NY.

If that's true, it'll be great. If it's basically a new looking food court, I'll be bummed.
I don't recall a fresh-foods / farmer's-market component to the Bourse redo, at least not at the original presentation I attended.

There will be a "makerspace" aspect in that there will be specialty food producers selling direct (e.g., a craft distiller, a custom chocolatier), but you won't be able to, say, walk out of the Bourse with lettuce, kale and Jersey tomatoes in your shopping bag.

By the way, in case you haven't all figured this out yet, that's what makes the RTM such a draw with the out-of-towners. It's in the elite ranks of public markets - year-round, open-every-day bazaars of fresh food drawn from local (or nearby) sources. The visitors come to imbibe that ambiance as they order lunch or a snack and get in the way of the actual shoppers.

Its peers are Seattle's Pike Place Market (arguably the only public market in the country that outranks the RTM on this scale) and the famous Farmers Market at Third and Fairfax in Los Angeles. The City Market in my hometown of Kansas City falls into this category too but hasn't yet become a bona fide tourist draw.

I think the Bourse will be great, but it won't be that.
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:58 PM
 
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Yea, I’m sorta convinced . . . to a point. But something to remember is that RTM is currently the most visited tourist attraction in the city, outdrawing even Independence NP: https://www.visitphilly.com/articles...-philadelphia/. It’s easy enough to envision a subset of Old City tourists who now trek to RTM for lunch instead choosing the Bourse. This isn’t a bad thing, but I do think it’s a thing.

I don’t think either will hamper the other’s success, however. The city is big enough to support both.
Also let's continue knowing that locals are the ones who created RTM's revival, continue supporting it and will do so in the future. It's about us making it a success too. The tourists are a bonus.

The new Bourse is, obviously, an unknown right now but the city can certainly do both.
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Old 08-13-2018, 08:36 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Walnut Street shops near Rittenhouse Square bought by N.C.-based investor

I don't know if this means anything for the future, but we shall see.
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Old 08-14-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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We all like different things. I like the signs - they create a buzz. That area is really going to be vibrant once the FDP opens up.

Unrelated: Didn’t know City Winery will include a performance area for ticketed events. That’s great. I miss the Rrazz Room at the Prince Theatre. I am surprised they couldn’t make a go of it.
I just saw this on another site. City Winery is awesome. (only been to the one in NYC once- but highly recommend).
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: close to home
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So I’ve been driving around Bala Cynwyd / City Ave lately because my care dealership is up here and I needed to get recalls on my car resolved. Wondering who goes to Saks and Lord and Taylor? The area doesn’t seem large enough to support two huge stores like these and I noticed the parking lots are pretty empty. I may go to L&T when the car is done though. St. Joseph’s has a nice campus .
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: New York City
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So I’ve been driving around Bala Cynwyd / City Ave lately because my care dealership is up here and I needed to get recalls on my car resolved. Wondering who goes to Saks and Lord and Taylor? The area doesn’t seem large enough to support two huge stores like these and I noticed the parking lots are pretty empty. I may go to L&T when the car is done though. St. Joseph’s has a nice campus .
I am actually surprised that Lord & Taylor hasn't closed yet. That is the only Saks in the area and there are a lot of wealthy people who lived not too far from it, which is why it is still around.

Other posters can chime in, but I think Bala had a plan or becoming a more dense shopping districts decades ago, and that never really materialized.

I am glad those stores still there though, spreads the retail a bit rather than have it solely at KoP. But those stores could use some sprucing up.
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Old 08-15-2018, 01:10 PM
 
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I am actually surprised that Lord & Taylor hasn't closed yet. That is the only Saks in the area and there are a lot of wealthy people who lived not too far from it, which is why it is still around.

Other posters can chime in, but I think Bala had a plan or becoming a more dense shopping districts decades ago, and that never really materialized.

I am glad those stores still there though, spreads the retail a bit rather than have it solely at KoP. But those stores could use some sprucing up.
I’m in LT right now and it’s surprisingly busy. At least in the shoe dept 😀. There’s a lot of construction on Bala Ave. Guy at the dealership said they’re renovating that whole street so maybe there’s more to follow.
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