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Old 04-23-2015, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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It will be nice once Center City becomes the prime shopping destination KOP mall goes bankrupt. That will be a great laugh at the hideous suburbs.
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Old 04-23-2015, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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It will be nice once Center City becomes the prime shopping destination KOP mall goes bankrupt. That will be a great laugh at the hideous suburbs.

You realize King of Prussia Mall is one of the most successful malls in the country, right?

You realize there are like 500 high end retail stores and restaurants there, right?

You realize they are currently undergoing a $150 M expansion, right ?
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Old 04-23-2015, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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You realize King of Prussia Mall is one of the most successful malls in the country, right?

You realize there are like 500 high end retail stores and restaurants there, right?

You realize they are currently undergoing a $150 M expansion, right ?
KOP is still a dump and a boring wasteland. Same as Cherry Hill, Willow Grove, and other hideous suburban malls. There's still unrealized potential in Center City and especially along the waterfront. KOP might have just wasted expansion money. It will be good for the city to start poaching businesses from the suburbs, especially retail. One thing you don't need a car in Philly so when you shop in CC there's no ugly sight of parking lots and it's more walkable than anywhere else in the country.
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Old 04-24-2015, 06:09 AM
 
Location: New York City
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KOP is still a dump and a boring wasteland. Same as Cherry Hill, Willow Grove, and other hideous suburban malls. There's still unrealized potential in Center City and especially along the waterfront. KOP might have just wasted expansion money. It will be good for the city to start poaching businesses from the suburbs, especially retail. One thing you don't need a car in Philly so when you shop in CC there's no ugly sight of parking lots and it's more walkable than anywhere else in the country.
Your're too much. Why can't both the city and suburbs have a flourishing shopping scene.

And I love Philly, but in order to maintain the insane amount of upscale retail you find in KoP you need people with money, and lots of it. Philly is going through a renaissance, but it will never have the amount of sustained wealth and retail selection that KoP has.

Not everyone likes malls either, but none of the 3 are dumps by any means.
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Old 04-24-2015, 07:50 AM
 
Location: NYC based - Used to Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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KOP is still a dump and a boring wasteland. Same as Cherry Hill, Willow Grove, and other hideous suburban malls. There's still unrealized potential in Center City and especially along the waterfront. KOP might have just wasted expansion money. It will be good for the city to start poaching businesses from the suburbs, especially retail. One thing you don't need a car in Philly so when you shop in CC there's no ugly sight of parking lots and it's more walkable than anywhere else in the country.

We are all grateful that you think highly of Philly. But you are at the point that you are delusional.
KOP is dump and a boring wasteland?
Yes, I barely use my car now I live in Center City. But most of your claims here and in other posts are just out of touch with reality.

Last edited by toobusytoday; 04-24-2015 at 10:45 AM.. Reason: removed the trolling comment
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Old 04-24-2015, 09:35 AM
 
Location: NYC based - Used to Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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About the Gallery.
With Council Introducing Gallery Redevelopment Bills, We Examine PREIT’s Plan | Hidden City Philadelphia
Discuss!
There are so many possibilities here.

I still lament how they won't just put normal retailers there not outlet.
We are ready for normal store.
Coradino's reasoning of "Oh we do not want to confuse customer and compete with East market development" is bogus. There are gazillions retailers out there, just don't pic the same one!
I really like his idea of recruiting local vendors. Although I have small fear that it will be wig and bootleg DVD stores all over again with nicer facade.
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Old 04-24-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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About the Gallery.
With Council Introducing Gallery Redevelopment Bills, We Examine PREIT’s Plan | Hidden City Philadelphia
Discuss!
There are so many possibilities here.

I still lament how they won't just put normal retailers there not outlet.
We are ready for normal store.
Coradino's reasoning of "Oh we do not want to confuse customer and compete with East market development" is bogus. There are gazillions retailers out there, just don't pic the same one!
I really like his idea of recruiting local vendors. Although I have small fear that it will be wig and bootleg DVD stores all over again with nicer facade.
First off.... I'll say more later... But where the .... does Caradino think Moms in the 60s, and before, were just staying at home spending money and having lunch!!?? LOL. Mine sure as .... wasn't and I never saw any, back then, that had all that much leisure time. What he said does sound a lot like those old fictional tv sitcoms. Reality was a little more complicated. The women I was around back then were not like Betty Draper in Mad Men.






Amino
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:12 PM
 
Location: NYC based - Used to Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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First off.... I'll say more later... But where the .... does Caradino think Moms in the 60s, and before, were just staying at home spending money and having lunch!!?? LOL. Mine sure as .... wasn't and I never saw any, back then, that had all that much leisure time. What he said does sound a lot like those old fictional tv sitcoms. Reality was a little more complicated. The women I was around back then were not like Betty Draper in Mad Men.






Amino
Well this just further confirm our view that Coradino is out off touch with reality!
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:27 PM
 
Location: NYC based - Used to Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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David Barton.
Back then in Miami, it is a gym for super snobbish ones.
Very pretentious! And super expensive.
Some friends of mine back then paid $100/month after 2 years contract.

My gym currently in PA is in the burb by my work. So I work out before I go home.
I only pay $15/month and the company subsidizes 50% of it.
So technically I only paid $7.50/month fpr gym membership. HA!
This includes access to pool, sauna and classes. And I think it is the same quality as David Barton Gym.
~THIS IS RANTING. I AM JUST FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE IMPORTANT FOR ME AND WHAT PHILLY and PA IN GENERAL IS LACKING~

OK David Barton gym cancelled its occupancy to replace LA Fitness.
While I do not go to that gym, for me a thriving retail in a city is defined as how popular middle class and high-end retailers - not limited to clothing, but also furniture stores, urban collectibles stores, dry cleaner chain and gym in this case - start opening branches in the city.
As snobbish as it sounds, that is what I noticed when I moved here - the lack of nationally or internationally renowned brands.
I was so surprised when I moved here in 2010, there was no single Apple store in the city. While Miami had 3 already by then. Same with Zara and Diesel, which was wildly popular down there and in most large cities.
And I also noticed that trendy semi-luxury brands will choose Philadelphia as its last resort to open a branch. In alot of cases it happened when popularity of the brand has died down and people in general started avoiding donning the products due to every hoochie mamas and trailer trashes don the same products. Points in case is Juicy Couture and lately Michael Kors, which opened their store in Miami in 2005 while I was still there. So what is the point opening Micahel Kors in Walnut if people start avoiding them like plague now? This is just like COACH all over again.

Sorry GUYS. I dont know why but I find it VERY FRUSTRATING. Especially since my part time job is really related to this.
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Old 04-24-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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~THIS IS RANTING. I AM JUST FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE IMPORTANT FOR ME AND WHAT PHILLY and PA IN GENERAL IS LACKING~

OK David Barton gym cancelled its occupancy to replace LA Fitness.
While I do not go to that gym, for me a thriving retail in a city is defined as how popular middle class and high-end retailers - not limited to clothing, but also furniture stores, urban collectibles stores, dry cleaner chain and gym in this case - start opening branches in the city.
As snobbish as it sounds, that is what I noticed when I moved here - the lack of nationally or internationally renowned brands.
I was so surprised when I moved here in 2010, there was no single Apple store in the city. While Miami had 3 already by then. Same with Zara and Diesel, which was wildly popular down there and in most large cities.
And I also noticed that trendy semi-luxury brands will choose Philadelphia as its last resort to open a branch. In alot of cases it happened when popularity of the brand has died down and people in general started avoiding donning the products due to every hoochie mamas and trailer trashes don the same products. Points in case is Juicy Couture and lately Michael Kors, which opened their store in Miami in 2005 while I was still there. So what is the point opening Micahel Kors in Walnut if people start avoiding them like plague now? This is just like COACH all over again.

Sorry GUYS. I dont know why but I find it VERY FRUSTRATING. Especially since my part time job is really related to this.
You're not the only one frustrated by it. But it continues to happen for two reasons that we've said before: proximity to New York and King of Prussia. This city continues to not get the respect it deserves.
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