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Old 08-27-2020, 07:30 PM
 
Location: New York City
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You can see in the video, they are all white suburbanites. They have zero conviction for their "cause." Hey, for all we know, those were white power supporters trying to insinuate (poorly) the opposite. A shame regardless. Although, it's funny they only feel comfortable walking through the heart of U. City. Try that action in Kingsessing or Strawberry Mansion and we might be reading another headline today.
Not sure what that other poster was trying to insinuate... that these men were black?
Yea, the ones in the video clearly white and likely from outside of the city (or South Philadelphia). I would wager a bunch are from South Jersey.

Either way, this type of behavior infuriates me and its very sad to see people destroying property and businesses for what exactly?...solidarity my a@@.
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Old 08-27-2020, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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You can see in the video, they are all white suburbanites. They have zero conviction for their "cause." Hey, for all we know, those were white power supporters trying to insinuate (poorly) the opposite. A shame regardless. Although, it's funny they only feel comfortable walking through the heart of U. City. Try that action in Kingsessing or Strawberry Mansion and we might be reading another headline today.
Their "cause" was the same cause that the people who thought torching the Starbucks kiosk in Dilworth Park was a way to avenge the death of George Floyd.

The report said that a group calling itself "Philly Anti-Cap"(italism) took credit for the vandalism with a post to its blog. Judging from some of the graffiti left behind — though I'm not sure what message the anarchists meant to communicate with "Nerds Call 911" and "Nerds Call Cops" — these were the same anarchist types who torched that Starbucks and some cop cars on the Saturday after the Floyd murder.

But some viewers probably assumed a bunch of black guys. Funny thing, whenever I hear of attacks with baseball bats, I assume white guys.
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Old 08-28-2020, 08:24 AM
 
Location: South Philadelphia
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But some viewers probably assumed a bunch of black guys. Funny thing, whenever I hear of attacks with baseball bats, I assume white guys.

Yes, absolutely. The self proclaimed 'marxist communists' have taken it upon themselves to try to hijack the police reform movement. Interesting tactic. In all honesty, I don't think many are paying attention to their moronic antics. It is surely not making more people join them.
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Old 08-28-2020, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Pa
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Their "cause" was the same cause that the people who thought torching the Starbucks kiosk in Dilworth Park was a way to avenge the death of George Floyd.

The report said that a group calling itself "Philly Anti-Cap"(italism) took credit for the vandalism with a post to its blog. Judging from some of the graffiti left behind — though I'm not sure what message the anarchists meant to communicate with "Nerds Call 911" and "Nerds Call Cops" — these were the same anarchist types who torched that Starbucks and some cop cars on the Saturday after the Floyd murder.

But some viewers probably assumed a bunch of black guys. Funny thing, whenever I hear of attacks with baseball bats, I assume white guys.
So their real cause is to try to disrupt the system in their own corny white suburban manner (justifying petty arson and vandalism - a once in a lifetime pass for such behavior) with the goal of avoiding the systematic slavery of the working "every-man." I can actually somewhat respect that. I still wish they would walk down fifth street around Cumberland or so and see what happens when they try to take a bat to a store in that neighborhood. I mean, after all, they're for the people right?
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Old 08-28-2020, 09:37 AM
 
Location: East Aurora, NY
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Philadelphia has a tragic homicidal history with bat welding morons like these wastes of life causing trouble in West Philly.

Given the general location of their mayhem, their attire, and what one can see through their masks, three guesses as to where they live and what their demographic profile likely is:

https://www.fox29.com/news/surveilla...hia-businesses
So much cringe. Way to to cut to the root of capitalism by attacking small businesses and an educational institution.

There is no universe in which this helps their cause. Some small business owners will have less money. Some workers will be out of jobs while they are closed. The far left has no strategy and is clearly not able to rise the moment. Incidents like the Jacob Blake shooting can be used to bring people to your cause, instead they turn around any drive people away with idiotic actions like these. At the end of the day if your message is that we don't need (or need less) police then making people unsafe is never going to be an effective way to promote that message.
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Old 08-28-2020, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Pa
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So much cringe. Way to to cut to the root of capitalism by attacking small businesses and an educational institution.

There is no universe in which this helps their cause. Some small business owners will have less money. Some workers will be out of jobs while they are closed. The far left has no strategy and is clearly not able to rise the moment. Incidents like the Jacob Blake shooting can be used to bring people to your cause, instead they turn around any drive people away with idiotic actions like these. At the end of the day if your message is that we don't need (or need less) police then making people unsafe is never going to be an effective way to promote that message.
Right? LOL... it's hilarious. Although, there is a pretty decent chance these are bad actors from the far right trying to spark the very disconnect you mention above.
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Old 08-28-2020, 11:35 AM
 
Location: New York City
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So much cringe. Way to to cut to the root of capitalism by attacking small businesses and an educational institution.

There is no universe in which this helps their cause. Some small business owners will have less money. Some workers will be out of jobs while they are closed. The far left has no strategy and is clearly not able to rise the moment. Incidents like the Jacob Blake shooting can be used to bring people to your cause, instead they turn around any drive people away with idiotic actions like these. At the end of the day if your message is that we don't need (or need less) police then making people unsafe is never going to be an effective way to promote that message.
They probably ordered their masks on Amazon too...wouldn't that be ironic.
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Old 08-28-2020, 12:35 PM
 
Location: 215
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Shootings occur in downtown philly on a semi regular basis. To state otherwise is to not pay close attention.

Shootings more frequently occur in portions of the city, like North and Northeast Philadelphia, inhabited by larger numbers of people. Some who may very well on this board.

Your source is non-credible ,unless they meant 'North Philadelphia East'
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Old 09-17-2020, 07:10 PM
 
Location: New York City
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What do we all think of this? (I posted the entire article below for those who have a pay wall.)

The lame quotes from Kenney and Darrell Clarke are irritating...Kenney has the typical "do nothing polticitian" reponse. And Clarke gave the lamest excuse, as if the availibilty of illegal weapons is the root of Philadelphia's ongoing and now increasing crime problem...

Thoughts?

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20200917.html

After Wednesday night’s quintuple shooting at Roberto Clemente Playground in Spring Garden, a woman emailed City Council President Darrell L. Clarke and the mayor. “I am writing yet again, less than a month since my last email, to beg for help,” she wrote. “The situation on and around Wallace St. is escalating. 55 shots fired tonight. In a children’s playground.”
There have been eight people shot in three separate incidents in Spring Garden this year. Three weeks ago, the woman emailed Clarke after another Wallace Street shooting.

“The expectation is we should be able to walk our streets without being shot,” she said Thursday, on the condition her name not be used for fear of retribution.
Wednesday night’s shooting on the 1800 block of Wallace Street was “what we were trying to avoid,” she said. “But we’re here now.”

Gun violence has been a problem across Philadelphia this year. There have been 323 homicides in the city as of Wednesday night, a 32% increase from the same period last year, and more than the year-end homicide counts for almost every year from 2009 through 2017, according to police statistics.

There have been 1,475 shootings in the city as of Wednesday, a figure that exceeds the year-end count of shootings from the last five years. From 2015 to 2017, there were about 1,250 shootings each year. In 2018, there were 1,401 shootings and 1,463 last year.
Mayor Jim Kenney, in an emailed statement Thursday, said the city is “devastated” by a violent year, and “our hearts go out to the families of everyone affected by last night’s shooting.” “We will continue to do everything we can do,” Clarke said in an interview, but one factor is an ongoing problem — “the availability of illegal weapons.”

In Wednesday’s shooting at the park’s basketball court, police responded about 8:10 p.m. to numerous 911 calls about gunfire. Two men, ages 18 and 21, were fatally shot.

Surveillance video showed three assailants opening fire on a group of about 15 people, Chief Inspector Scott Small said. Police found 55 spent shell casings from two separate caliber firearms, he said. No arrests were reported as of Thursday evening.

Officers found 21-year-old Khalid Henderson, of the 1600 block of Wallace Street, unresponsive on the court and carried him to a 9th District patrol car. Before they left for the hospital, medics arrived and pronounced him dead at 8:25 in the backseat.

Police said an 18-year-old, with gunshot wounds to his torso, was pronounced dead about two hours later. He was identified as Jayden Lucas, of Oxford Circle.
Three other men, one 18 and two who are 19, suffered gunshot wounds. One 19 year old was in critical condition; the two other victims were stable — all at Jefferson University Hospital.
Police detained a 19-year-old man who was trying to get into his Lexus. He was later released.

In the August shooting on the 1600 block of Wallace Street, an 18-year-old man was injured.
Police said Thursday that Kareem Parson-Moore, 18, of the same block, was arrested Sept. 4 in that shooting. Court documents show he was charged with aggravated assault and gun offenses, and is out on bail. The District Attorney’s Office sought bail of $999,999; a bail magistrate set it at $400,000. A preliminary hearing is scheduled for next week.
It was not immediately known if the two shootings were related.

Justino Navarro, vice president of the Spring Garden Community Development Corp. and a past president of the Spring Garden Civic Association, said recently there has “no doubt been an uptick in the last several years” of gun violence in the neighborhood, which he said reflected an overall increase in the city.
“The Spring Garden community is no exception,” he said, attributing the violence to people’s “willingness to use guns to settle scores in Philadelphia.”

A source of crime in the area sometimes stems from drug activity at the corner of 17th and Wallace Streets, he said.
“We’re a very diverse neighborhood and unfortunately we’ve been touched by the crime wave,” said Navarro. “Detectives are doing a great job resolving them when they occur. We just don’t want them to occur.”
Elaine Petrossian, another Spring Garden resident, said Thursday: “My heart is breaking for the families of the victims. It’s deeply distressing that folks ostensibly coming to enjoy outdoor recreation are at risk of gun violence.”
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Old 09-17-2020, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Pa
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What do we all think of this? (I posted the entire article below for those who have a pay wall.)

The lame quotes from Kenney and Darrell Clarke are irritating...Kenney has the typical "do nothing polticitian" reponse. And Clarke gave the lamest excuse, as if the availibilty of illegal weapons is the root of Philadelphia's ongoing and now increasing crime problem...

Thoughts?

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20200917.html

After Wednesday night’s quintuple shooting at Roberto Clemente Playground in Spring Garden, a woman emailed City Council President Darrell L. Clarke and the mayor. “I am writing yet again, less than a month since my last email, to beg for help,” she wrote. “The situation on and around Wallace St. is escalating. 55 shots fired tonight. In a children’s playground.”
There have been eight people shot in three separate incidents in Spring Garden this year. Three weeks ago, the woman emailed Clarke after another Wallace Street shooting.

“The expectation is we should be able to walk our streets without being shot,” she said Thursday, on the condition her name not be used for fear of retribution.
Wednesday night’s shooting on the 1800 block of Wallace Street was “what we were trying to avoid,” she said. “But we’re here now.”

Gun violence has been a problem across Philadelphia this year. There have been 323 homicides in the city as of Wednesday night, a 32% increase from the same period last year, and more than the year-end homicide counts for almost every year from 2009 through 2017, according to police statistics.

There have been 1,475 shootings in the city as of Wednesday, a figure that exceeds the year-end count of shootings from the last five years. From 2015 to 2017, there were about 1,250 shootings each year. In 2018, there were 1,401 shootings and 1,463 last year.
Mayor Jim Kenney, in an emailed statement Thursday, said the city is “devastated” by a violent year, and “our hearts go out to the families of everyone affected by last night’s shooting.” “We will continue to do everything we can do,” Clarke said in an interview, but one factor is an ongoing problem — “the availability of illegal weapons.”

In Wednesday’s shooting at the park’s basketball court, police responded about 8:10 p.m. to numerous 911 calls about gunfire. Two men, ages 18 and 21, were fatally shot.

Surveillance video showed three assailants opening fire on a group of about 15 people, Chief Inspector Scott Small said. Police found 55 spent shell casings from two separate caliber firearms, he said. No arrests were reported as of Thursday evening.

Officers found 21-year-old Khalid Henderson, of the 1600 block of Wallace Street, unresponsive on the court and carried him to a 9th District patrol car. Before they left for the hospital, medics arrived and pronounced him dead at 8:25 in the backseat.

Police said an 18-year-old, with gunshot wounds to his torso, was pronounced dead about two hours later. He was identified as Jayden Lucas, of Oxford Circle.
Three other men, one 18 and two who are 19, suffered gunshot wounds. One 19 year old was in critical condition; the two other victims were stable — all at Jefferson University Hospital.
Police detained a 19-year-old man who was trying to get into his Lexus. He was later released.

In the August shooting on the 1600 block of Wallace Street, an 18-year-old man was injured.
Police said Thursday that Kareem Parson-Moore, 18, of the same block, was arrested Sept. 4 in that shooting. Court documents show he was charged with aggravated assault and gun offenses, and is out on bail. The District Attorney’s Office sought bail of $999,999; a bail magistrate set it at $400,000. A preliminary hearing is scheduled for next week.
It was not immediately known if the two shootings were related.

Justino Navarro, vice president of the Spring Garden Community Development Corp. and a past president of the Spring Garden Civic Association, said recently there has “no doubt been an uptick in the last several years” of gun violence in the neighborhood, which he said reflected an overall increase in the city.
“The Spring Garden community is no exception,” he said, attributing the violence to people’s “willingness to use guns to settle scores in Philadelphia.”

A source of crime in the area sometimes stems from drug activity at the corner of 17th and Wallace Streets, he said.
“We’re a very diverse neighborhood and unfortunately we’ve been touched by the crime wave,” said Navarro. “Detectives are doing a great job resolving them when they occur. We just don’t want them to occur.”
Elaine Petrossian, another Spring Garden resident, said Thursday: “My heart is breaking for the families of the victims. It’s deeply distressing that folks ostensibly coming to enjoy outdoor recreation are at risk of gun violence.”
Well, winter isn't too far off, so we got that going for us.
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