West Philly: A step up from north Philly? (crimes, to move)

[gwillyfromphilly]

Originally Posted by WestPhillyDude75

My supervisor told me Fairmount is considered the Art Musuem area

Your supervisor was correct but the Art Museum area is part of North Philadelphia as well.

[phillies2011]

Originally Posted by WestPhillyDude75

My supervisor told me Fairmount is considered the Art Musuem area

Well then. Who can argue with that? I mean damn! He's a supervisor... of some undetermined thing... but a supervisor none the less! Everyone knows you don't get these types of supervisory positions without knowing the designations of random philly neighborhoods.

well i guess that settles it. did he also you explain to you the difference between east and west?

did he also explain that anyone from west philly (grew up there and 20+ year resident here) knows that 69th street is clearly in upper darby? i mean it's not like it's hard to figure out where philly ends, there's a big creek and about a quarter mile of green space separating west philly from upper darby.

[FBJ]

Originally Posted by phillies2011

Well then. Who can argue with that? I mean damn! He's a supervisor... of some undetermined thing... but a supervisor none the less! Everyone knows you don't get these types of supervisory positions without knowing the designations of random philly neighborhoods.

well i guess that settles it. did he also you explain to you the difference between east and west?

did he also explain that anyone from west philly (grew up there and 20+ year resident here) knows that 69th street is clearly in upper darby? i mean it's not like it's hard to figure out where philly ends, there's a big creek and about a quarter mile of green space separating west philly from upper darby.

First of all it's a woman and she was living in philly before you were born. So i think I will take her statement a little more seriously than yours

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by WestPhillyDude75

My supervisor told me Fairmount is considered the Art Musuem area

"Art Museum Area" is just another name for Fairmount, which is in North Philadelphia.

[mancat100]

The official boundary[according to whom?] of North Philadelphia are Cheltenham Avenue to the north, Market Street to the south, 35th Street to the west, and Adams Avenue to the east.[citation needed]

The above is from the Wikipedia article about North Philadelphia. It says North Philly's southern border is Market Street. I bet the folks in Old City, Chinatown, Logan Square and the office towers had no idea they were in North Philly.

File this under, "Wikipedia is a crock"

[Cnote11]

Originally Posted by mancat100

The official boundary[according to whom?] of North Philadelphia are Cheltenham Avenue to the north, Market Street to the south, 35th Street to the west, and Adams Avenue to the east.[citation needed]

The above is from the Wikipedia article about North Philadelphia. It says North Philly's southern border is Market Street. I bet the folks in Old City, Chinatown, Logan Square and the office towers had no idea they were in North Philly.

File this under, "Wikipedia, as with any real-time entity that humans deal with directly, is occasionally wrong and must be diligently corrected by those who care about the proper dissemination of knowledge. Furthermore, Wikipedia is merely a singular resource and should not do critical thinking for you, nor should you accept all information you read up front as correct, whether from Wikipedia or not. Nevertheless, Wikipedia can, and does, provide valuable information and, when running at its fullest capacity, is a great achievement on the behalf of those who contribute. This on-going project is subject to revision, but is a testament to the human capability and shows how the Internet can revolutionize our society. Whether or not Wikipedia fails or succeeds in practice and longevity, it is a worthwhile idea to explore and let run its course."

I fixed that for you

[mancat100]

Originally Posted by Cnote11

I fixed that for you

My version was more succinct.

[Lenses & Lights.]

Originally Posted by rotodome

I don't see how Fairmount could be.

It IS... It's funny how these places like Spring Garden, Fairmount, Brewerytown, Northern Liberties, etc; were TOTALLY considered NORTH PHILLY 20-30 years ago.....& NOW they're not.
I used to visit and hang out in those places when they were not fashionable and were kinda unsafe. I "CLEARLY" recall some of those streets below Spring Garden CCP area heading towards the old prison being wild as all get out in the early to late 80's & early 90's.

The guys from " Wallace St Locos" & The Red Tape Crew began to fall off by going to jail, dying off, and the rest of the neighbors on "THEIR BLOCKS" being priced out once gentrification began to take place around '89.
People I know from East Mt. Airy began to see that area change sort of like Logan and Olney. They moved to Fairmount and Spring Garden, Northern Liberties since they had long time employment in City Hall, The Federal Court Building, and the School District Headquarters.

Trust me THOSE areas ARE North Philly as much as Powelton Village & Mantua are "The Bottom" section of West Philly as well as Clark Park, etc.

Hmmmm....I recall people asking me what part of New York I was going to and I'd say Manhattan and include Harlem and was told that it was NOT apart of Manhattan. Hmmm....Since it's been in a huge process of regentrification....Is it STILL considered Harlem? Just asking.

[FBJ]

When I used to ride through Fairmount on my way to 20th and Montgomery I fell in love with the area and would fantasize about living there.

[rotodome]

Originally Posted by BillyJacc

It IS... It's funny how these places like Spring Garden, Fairmount, Brewerytown, Northern Liberties, etc; were TOTALLY considered NORTH PHILLY 20-30 years ago.....& NOW they're not.
I used to visit and hang out in those places when they were not fashionable and were kinda unsafe. I "CLEARLY" recall some of those streets below Spring Garden CCP area heading towards the old prison being wild as all get out in the early to late 80's & early 90's.

The guys from " Wallace St Locos" & The Red Tape Crew began to fall off by going to jail, dying off, and the rest of the neighbors on "THEIR BLOCKS" being priced out once gentrification began to take place around '89.
People I know from East Mt. Airy began to see that area change sort of like Logan and Olney. They moved to Fairmount and Spring Garden, Northern Liberties since they had long time employment in City Hall, The Federal Court Building, and the School District Headquarters.

Trust me THOSE areas ARE North Philly as much as Powelton Village & Mantua are "The Bottom" section of West Philly as well as Clark Park, etc.

Hmmmm....I recall people asking me what part of New York I was going to and I'd say Manhattan and include Harlem and was told that it was NOT apart of Manhattan. Hmmm....Since it's been in a huge process of regentrification....Is it STILL considered Harlem? Just asking.

I think you misunderstood.

I didn't see how Fairmount could be "North Philadelphia EAST" (If there is such a thing), since it's west of Broad.

But to answer your question, Manhattan is the name of an island. Places aren't "considered" to be on it, they just are or they aren't. Harlem is one of many neighborhoods on that island, and it always has been.