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Old 10-05-2015, 04:35 PM
 
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That's a good article. Do people really think pensions and health care for teachers is a bigger boondoggle than having kids' education used as an excuse for corporate raiding of public funds?
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Old 10-08-2015, 07:33 AM
 
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That's a good article. Do people really think pensions and health care for teachers is a bigger boondoggle than having kids' education used as an excuse for corporate raiding of public funds?
you have to realize that a LOT of the people that are pushing for this have an ideological position that government is always lazy and wasteful, and privatization is always more efficient- despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.

Corbett himself was pretty vocal about public education not working and would have switched the entire system to charters if he could have.
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Old 10-08-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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I do realize this. It was a bit of a rhetorical question. But it still boggles the mind.
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Old 10-13-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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What are people's thoughts on the whole substitution teacher fiasco?

Company that finds Philly sub teachers misses another deadline

DISGUSTING... Once again, a private company low balling our education system and the children are the ones that suffer.

I know if I was at work and I signed a third-party to a $34 million contract and there was not a clause written in terminating the contract if a breach of basically any requirement takes place, my a$$ and my whole project team would be canned before we even got the chance to defend ourselves. I sort of think its time for Hite to take a hike.
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Old 10-14-2015, 06:12 AM
 
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you have to realize that a LOT of the people that are pushing for this have an ideological position that government is always lazy and wasteful, and privatization is always more efficient- despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.

Corbett himself was pretty vocal about public education not working and would have switched the entire system to charters if he could have.
Isn't Corbett a product of public schools?
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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The Tenuous Fate of Pennsylvania’s Public Schools

The legislature’s budget disagreements could mean that many of the Keystone State’s schools are about to shut down.

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Old 10-14-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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The Tenuous Fate of Pennsylvania’s Public Schools

The legislature’s budget disagreements could mean that many of the Keystone State’s schools are about to shut down.

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Wow! Just wow. Wolf says he's not giving in either regarding the budget. Rendell had budget battles too but nothing like this and for as long.
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Old 10-14-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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Wow! Just wow. Wolf says he's not giving in either regarding the budget. Rendell had budget battles too but nothing like this and for as long.
The same thing is going on in NC.
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Old 10-14-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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I knew Philly's schools were bad, but didn't understand that it really is state-wide.

Wolf should request a federal bailout. If the auto makers can do it... why not the public school systems?
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Old 10-14-2015, 02:17 PM
 
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I knew Philly's schools were bad, but didn't understand that it really is state-wide.

Wolf should request a federal bailout. If the auto makers can do it... why not the public school systems?
It's not statewide, and the system is in no way in need of a bailout. On average the state schools perform quite well.

The problem is that there is no funding formula in place and school funding is heavily, HEAVILY dependent on local property taxes. Wealthy areas end up with well funded districts with more money than they know what to do with and excellent, highly paid teachers and new buildings- poor areas are warzones that can't keep staff. PA has the biggest discrepancy between wealthy and poor districts in the country.

The state is more than capable of fixing all of this (as well as ending the charter school experiment which has been a disaster for Chester and Philadelphia- where most of them actually ARE) but the general assembly which is heavily republican and composed of representatives from rural areas lacks the political will or incentive to do anything about it.

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Wow! Just wow. Wolf says he's not giving in either regarding the budget. Rendell had budget battles too but nothing like this and for as long.
he really can't. The legislature turned in a laughable budget that not only isn't balanced at all, nearly all savings in it depend on an unconstitutional alteration to existing pension funds. The second he gave in, the budget would be eviscerated by the supreme court and we'd be back to square one. The conclusion to this "fight" is foregone- there's no way to implement the budget (the PA constitution requires it be balanced, unlike the federal budget) without an across the board rate increase. The freshmen in the assembly are simply holding out from doing so as long as possible on ideological grounds.

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