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Old 08-19-2013, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Jeez, you're awfully hostile about this.

I still think that the largest city in the state should be able to provide basic services to citizens, like running primary and secondary schools, especially when we pay pretty high taxes. (The city also taxes non-residents pretty nicely as well, assessing a higher wage tax to non-resident workers than the state does and charging them a 2% sales tax.)

I'm sympathetic to problems that would result from the state running a city school district -- I think it should run as locally as possible. But how did the city even get to this point? Does PIT have this problem? How much of this stems from the city's failure to collect property taxes?
It's sad how people who don't even live in the city, know what's best for it. They should just worry about their own little suburb, because they don't know anything about the city.
And, really, it doesn't matter how much money they throw into the schools ... the students that come to school prepared, will learn, those who don't, won't. I'm tired of hearing about the schools and money.
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Old 08-19-2013, 02:51 PM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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It's sad how people who don't even live in the city, know what's best for it. They should just worry about their own little suburb, because they don't know anything about the city.
And, really, it doesn't matter how much money they throw into the schools ... the students that come to school prepared, will learn, those who don't, won't. I'm tired of hearing about the schools and money.
I think that allowing students to "come to school prepared" (with pencils, papers, books, nurses, teachers, enough staff to allow the schools to function) is the salient issue here.
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I think that allowing students to "come to school prepared" (with pencils, papers, books, nurses, teachers, enough staff to allow the schools to function) is the salient issue here.
They'll be fine, the money's there. The parents need to stop looking at the schools as daycare and have their kids ready to learn.
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Philly
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It's sad how people who don't even live in the city, know what's best for it. They should just worry about their own little suburb, because they don't know anything about the city.
And, really, it doesn't matter how much money they throw into the schools ... the students that come to school prepared, will learn, those who don't, won't. I'm tired of hearing about the schools and money.
If the first paragraph is directed towards me, I live and work in the City of Philadelphia.

To your second point, I agree. Throwing more money at the problem doesn't necessarily fix it, although more money isn't always a bad idea.

@rotodome: thanks for the link.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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If the first paragraph is directed towards me, I live and work in the City of Philadelphia.

To your second point, I agree. Throwing more money at the problem doesn't necessarily fix it, although more money isn't always a bad idea.

@rotodome: thanks for the link.
It was not directed at you, SJCPHL.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:10 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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So where is this fool Nutter supposed to borrow the $50 Million from?
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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So where is this fool Nutter supposed to borrow the $50 Million from?
It's a shame there isn't more cohesiveness between Philly and state government. There's definitely blame on both sides.
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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How true. Friends who teach at NE High and Central often talk about the Jewish and Asian (including those from India), that graduate, get academic scholarships to college and go on to be very successful.
I know regular, ol' white people whose kids have done the same after graduating from public school. According to some on here (those with an agenda), it never happens.
They hide behind "I'm just trying to help people ..." When in reality, they're just trying to convince people to leave the city or never move here at all.
I got news for them - our population's increased.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:52 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I got news for them - our population's increased.
Not with 'regular ol white people' families.. Think about that..
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:54 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I know regular, ol' white people whose kids have done the same after graduating from public school. According to some on here (those with an agenda), it never happens.
They hide behind "I'm just trying to help people ..." When in reality, they're just trying to convince people to leave the city or never move here at all.
I got news for them - our population's increased.
Yea its all smoke and mirrors. The Philly public schools are doing great!


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