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Old 08-10-2013, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Originally Posted by phillies2011 View Post
that was your point perhaps, but you failed to make it, all you actually did was contend that football players should be generalized in another way. You said they should they are all smart because they have to read thick playbooks. That is just another generalization, just a positive one. It's also a very ill-informed generalization because if you measure intelligence by one's ability to memorize a playbook, you have an awfully generous definition of the word "intelligent"!

As I said, there are some smart and some dumb players in the nfl, I was the only one arguing that the intelligence of people in the NFL shouldn't be generalized.

cuppa tea?
Yup... and it depends on the metrics. That is all that can really be said! Personally, if I were a head coach, I'd want a guy who had high football IQ and was good in the weight room/physical intelligence over some guy who spent all day on astrophysics. The only abilities that matter are the ones that fulfill the function. This is exactly what I meant by my post: I don't look to people like Riley Cooper for my social commentary; I look to them for my football.

 
Old 08-10-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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Can you quote me in that entire article where it says that a score of 20 is the mean? I can't seem to find it. They even list the median for various professions. I don't see anywhere in that article that explicitly states that 20 is the mean. I see that they then say average for NFL players, but average is often used to describe either mean, median, or mode, and only when one explicitly says arithmetic mean do they mean the mean you're surely thinking of.
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First paragraph, four lines down:
"A score of 20 is intended to indicate average intelligence (corresponding to an intelligence quotient of 100).[3]"

And then under "Average score in the NFL by position:

"An average football player usually scores around 20 points.[7] However, some notable people who either scored well above or well below this average include:"

The article might be using mean, median, and mode as interchangeable - but technically that would be incorrect. The mean represents the average score, the median - the mid point of the distribution, and the mode is the most frequently occurring value. That said, the three values will generally be fairly similar when you're assessing thousands+ people. So, in this case, I wouldn't be surprised if a score of about 20 was representative of mean, mdn, and mode.
 
Old 08-10-2013, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Originally Posted by phillies2011 View Post
that was your point perhaps, but you failed to make it, all you actually did was contend that football players should be generalized in another way. You said they should they are all smart because they have to read thick playbooks. That is just another generalization, just a positive one. It's also a very ill-informed generalization because if you measure intelligence by one's ability to memorize a playbook, you have an awfully generous definition of the word "intelligent"!

As I said, there are some smart and some dumb players in the nfl, I was the only one arguing that the intelligence of people in the NFL shouldn't be generalized.

cuppa tea?
I thought you'd be able to understand the point by me questioning his supposedly being open-minded.
 
Old 08-10-2013, 05:29 PM
 
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It would be one thing if the off-topic drift of this thread were friendly and respectful. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case.

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