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Old 08-21-2013, 07:19 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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So you're perfectly content with the current state and trajectory of public education in PA?

He really does not care cause he don't have kids.. Education is not even on his radar due to this.. If he did have kids he would be singing a different tune
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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He really does not care cause he don't have kids.. Education is not even on his radar due to this.. If he did have kids he would be singing a different tune
100% agree! Gov. Corbett seems out of touch when it comes to education in the state.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:10 PM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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No, but there's gotta be a better solution than throwing money at the problems. How much is enough? Give me a figure.
In case you haven't been paying attention, what's been happening over the past several years is the exact opposite of "throwing money at the problems." Schools' funding has repeatedly been CUT. And now when it's to the point that they will not be able to function to provide the purpose they exist for, somehow you've got some people are pointing the finger at the schools, and teachers, and even at the students themselves for not being able to just "learn" without adequate support. This is not the same situation as the public schools I grew up with and attended. To me, this is totally unreasonable.
IMO it's downright shameful that we can't do better than this.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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And I am someone who grew up in the city, attended schools in the city, and fully believe that the city is a great place for kids to grow up. I'm not making some argument for suburban flight.
The suburban districts are staring to face some of the same problems that are exacerbated in the city anyway.
But suburban kids and city kids both universally deserve access to a decent education. Both these mythical kids who can pull themselves up by their bootstraps and "learn" in a vacuum, and kids who need a little more help than that. And if we don't give them that, IMO we've failed in a major way as a society.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Part of the problem is that a significant segment of the party in power in Harrisburg doesn't really believe in public education - "government schools" they call them. Some of the more extreme ones call them "socialist schools". It's hard to reason with that mindset. They also don't like Philadelphia very much. The results of this antipathy are apparent.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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I was talking about how some people have been ripping the schools for years, and every year kids STILL learn. Don't get hysterical about the myth of "no money for supplies - the kids can't learn!!!"
Maybe if kids weren't losing the books, things would be easier. Nobody wants to place the blame where it really belongs.
So the blame belongs with the children? That is perhaps the most asinine thing I've ever seen posted in the history of city data and that is really saying something.

The truth is the funding crisis for the PSD is not unique, this is happening all across America. Education spending as a percentage of the GDP has been down, way down, for decades now. That's not even accounting for public education funding that is now being diverted away from public schools and towards charter schools, home schooling, and private schools in the form of vouchers. The de-funding of America's Public School system is criminal and it is coming at the cost of our future.

Education should be the number one priority in this nation and until this is changed America will continue its downward slide into stupidity.
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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So the blame belongs with the children? That is perhaps the most asinine thing I've ever seen posted in the history of city data and that is really saying something.

The truth is the funding crisis for the PSD is not unique, this is happening all across America. Education spending as a percentage of the GDP has been down, way down, for decades now. That's not even accounting for public education funding that is now being diverted away from public schools and towards charter schools, home schooling, and private schools in the form of vouchers. The de-funding of America's Public School system is criminal and it is coming at the cost of our future.

Education should be the number one priority in this nation and until this is changed America will continue its downward slide into stupidity.
Are you done? Yes, the kids and their feeder parents are partly to blame. How much money is enough? Give us a figure.
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Old 08-22-2013, 12:57 AM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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You are building a straw man with your "give me a figure" repetitions. The schools need adequate funding. They have been asking for it and making compromises for years, and have been getting less and less, and forced further into debt. You can easily look up those numbers if you like.
If you don't believe in funding schools adequately, what is the solution you are proposing? Build more prisons and detention centers to hold the kids (and hey why not their parents too) who haven't managed to will themselves an education and become productive members of society? Prisons don't seem to have much trouble getting funding.
But for what it costs to lock them up for a year, you could send a kid to Germantown Friends.
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:55 AM
 
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Or if your older and your kids are grown it can be fun also.
And if you're like us, approaching middle age (50) and you never had kids, Philly is like a siren, calling to the desolate Midwest, "Come...play among my cheesesteak parlors and dance in the streets where Liberty was born..."

That's what we're planning, anyway.
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Phila Pa & NYC
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100% agree! Gov. Corbett seems out of touch when it comes to education in the state.
17 more months of that clown, and he is history.
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