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Old 09-17-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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montgomery county could probably add a 1% sales tax to fudn transit but the city, already at 8%, cannot afford to do so IMO.the city would have to find other means, perhaps by improving property tax collections. I agree that local funding has to be part of the solution to fund SEPTA and maybe increased local funding will help spark a drive to improve SEPTA operationally.
an additional .25 or .5 regional tax (Say Bucks, Chester, Delaware, Montgomery, and Philly) might go a long way - not people would be thrilled though

assuming the regional income is somewhere around 300Billion - lets say 20% goes back as sales taxable

at .25% that is 150 Million and at .5 that is 300 Million annually
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Philly
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an additional .25 or .5 regional tax (Say Bucks, Chester, Delaware, Montgomery, and Philly) might go a long way - not people would be thrilled though

assuming the regional income is somewhere around 300Billion - lets say 20% goes back as sales taxable

at .25% that is 150 Million and at .5 that is 300 Million annually
for the collar counties that amounts to 6.25% or 6.5% which I'd consider reasonable. I guess Philly at 8.25-8.5% isn't worse than the current 8% vs 6% (and 0% in DE). you're probably right that I'm not going to leave philly to purchase something for $100 over that last 25 cents ($8.25 vs $8). my decision has probably already been made on that $8. If I'm buying an $800 tv I'm already going to delaware to save the $64 so $68 isn't going to make a difference. plus I can stop off and buy a case of wine at a good wine store.
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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.the city would have to find other means, perhaps by improving property tax collections.
Property tax is the worst way to support transit. Property owners already feel like they're shouldering an unfair burden, and the bill comes due in black and white and in big numbers. A sales tax increase doesn't slap you in the face, and it's usually in small print. It's easier to convince people to boil slowly in hot oil than it is to persuade them to take a dive into a bubbling vat. So to speak.

But since someone mentioned upthread that the Pa. legislature doesn't seem to allow regions or counties to propose regional sales taxes, I guess the point is moot.

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I agree that local funding has to be part of the solution to fund SEPTA and maybe increased local funding will help spark a drive to improve SEPTA operationally.
I agree; if there's a definite perception that better service will follow, the support will come. SEPTA's communication and PR skills, however, are not exactly its hallmark.

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plus I can stop off and buy a case of wine at a good wine store.
Always an incentive.
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Philly
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Property tax is the worst way to support transit. Property owners already feel like they're shouldering an unfair burden, and the bill comes due in black and white and in big numbers. A sales tax increase doesn't slap you in the face, and it's usually in small print. It's easier to convince people to boil slowly in hot oil than it is to persuade them to take a dive into a bubbling vat. So to speak.
not really. first of all, it's a way to increase revenue without increasing taxes. second, you could funnel the 1% sales tax surcharge to transit (or .25/.5% of it) and replace what the revenue is currently funding with increased property tax revenue. Philadelphia is somewhat unique in that property tax collection rates are abysmal when compared to the collar counties. unlike a regional sales tax, the city has already implemented a 2% sales tax hike so using some of it for funding presents no legal hurdle. your gripes are best suited for the suburbs where property taxes are often high (though not always). I'd also point out that those with property closest to the stations see the most benefit in the same way businesses closest to a highway exit see the most benefit

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But since someone mentioned upthread that the Pa. legislature doesn't seem to allow regions or counties to propose regional sales taxes, I guess the point is moot.
it was in at least one of the failed bills this summer

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Old 09-18-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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Now if I could just find an easier route to get to my office in Media from Upsal.
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