Declining Neighborhoods (Philadelphia, York, Oxford: middle-class, rental, crime)

[Snwmn5]

Originally Posted by FKD19124

give it time. they said the same thing about Mayfair several years ago and now look at it.
Rawhurst is right next door and is turning into a crap hole.

Maybe, but if you take that approach, you could make that argument about pretty much any neighborhood outside of the core of the city where all the young professionals/hipsters are flocking to. Rhawnhurst seems to be going through a big transition with a ton of immigrants moving in, but I wouldn't put it in the same category as some of these other neighborhoods that are becoming a straight up extension of North Philly.

[AgelessStranger]

Originally Posted by FKD19124

no you shouldn't but again history is a good indicator.
Usually when the first few black families move in, they are the working or professional types that bother nobody and are friendly. soon after, the trash follows. This started to happen 20 years ago in northwood.

Exactly. Happened in Oxford Circle as well.

[jazzy jeff]

Originally Posted by Snwmn5

Maybe, but if you take that approach, you could make that argument about pretty much any neighborhood outside of the core of the city where all the young professionals/hipsters are flocking to. Rhawnhurst seems to be going through a big transition with a ton of immigrants moving in, but I wouldn't put it in the same category as some of these other neighborhoods that are becoming a straight up extension of North Philly.

A lot of Chinese are moving into Rhawnhurst and the amazing thing is many are paying "cash" for their homes. These people certainly will not bring down a neighborhood.

[Debbie1125]

Originally Posted by FKD19124

easier said than done.
When you have enough of section 8 trash and other quality of life issues and your concerns keep falling on deaf ears you have no choice but to flee.

This is exactly what happened when I lived in Wissinoming. It got so bad I had no other choice but to move.

I always tell people who whine in Manayunk about the college renters and yuppies that they could have it far far worse. Given the choice I'd rather have 20 somethings puking on sidewalks than violent crime increasing.

[pman]

Originally Posted by FKD19124

give it time. they said the same thing about Mayfair several years ago and now look at it.
Rawhurst is right next door and is turning into a crap hole.

fox chase isn't experiencing the same declines in income or relative home prices that have afflicated other neighborhoods. I don't know why exactly. still, you talk about mayfair like it's awful. we have friends who live there and it's still fine...maybe not perfect but certainly not worthy of "now look at it" asif that was supposed to mean how awful it is. in all likelihood these dated, ugly parts of the city will continue to be a choice of last resort unless the schools are fixed. fox chase looks a lot more like roxborough than it does mayfair

[mancat100]

Originally Posted by Debbie1125

Given the choice I'd rather have 20 somethings puking on sidewalks than violent crime increasing.

It's good to have options

[FKD19124]

My sister in law lives in Rawnhurst and its trash that's moving in her block. Section 8 tenants across the street as well

Originally Posted by Snwmn5

Maybe, but if you take that approach, you could make that argument about pretty much any neighborhood outside of the core of the city where all the young professionals/hipsters are flocking to. Rhawnhurst seems to be going through a big transition with a ton of immigrants moving in, but I wouldn't put it in the same category as some of these other neighborhoods that are becoming a straight up extension of North Philly.

[Aimewitue]

Originally Posted by jazzy jeff

A lot of Chinese are moving into Rhawnhurst and the amazing thing is many are paying "cash" for their homes. These people certainly will not bring down a neighborhood.

I've noticed this as well some parts of rhawnhurst are still really nice. Those chinese families have money and are investing in the area which is good.

Originally Posted by pman

fox chase isn't experiencing the same declines in income or relative home prices that have afflicated other neighborhoods. I don't know why exactly. still, you talk about mayfair like it's awful. we have friends who live there and it's still fine...maybe not perfect but certainly not worthy of "now look at it" asif that was supposed to mean how awful it is. in all likelihood these dated, ugly parts of the city will continue to be a choice of last resort unless the schools are fixed. fox chase looks a lot more like roxborough than it does mayfair

FOX CHASE has a lot going for it the hospital,regional rail,parks and shopping its even walkable in some areas. I was surprised to see the houses near the hospital are declining in value. I guess it has do with the schools. I didnt think those schools are that bad they certain better than some parts of the city. But i guess when jenkintown is right across the border you have to make a choice to go with the better school.

Originally Posted by FKD19124

My sister in law lives in Rawnhurst and its trash that's moving in her block. Section 8 tenants across the street as well

Rhawnhurst is big some parts are still really nice i haven't see a big decline in rhawnhurst just some areas have seen changes.

[pman]

Originally Posted by Aimewitue

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FOX CHASE has a lot going for it the hospital,regional rail,parks and shopping its even walkable in some areas. I was surprised to see the houses near the hospital are declining in value. I guess it has do with the schools. I didnt think those schools are that bad they certain better than some parts of the city. But i guess when jenkintown is right across the border you have to make a choice to go with the better school.

where is fox chase declining in value? home prices are reasonable, census figures indicate the area's income actually rose. it does have to compete with jenkintown and abington but it also competes with places like bensalem, fox chase probably falls somewhere in the middle. not perfect but a damn sight nicer than bensalem as a place to live.

[Aimewitue]

Originally Posted by pman

where is fox chase declining in value? home prices are reasonable, census figures indicate the area's income actually rose. it does have to compete with jenkintown and abington but it also competes with places like bensalem, fox chase probably falls somewhere in the middle. not perfect but a damn sight nicer than bensalem as a place to live.

I agree with you my brother in law has home in fox chase and its been on the market awhile. Other homes in his area have sold for less than they did in the past few years. But i agree foxchase is a great place to live. I think foxchase should get more good press.