Declining Neighborhoods (Philadelphia, York: renting, house, tenant)

[pman]

Originally Posted by Aimewitue

I agree with you my brother in law has home in fox chase and its been on the market awhile. Other homes in his area have sold for less than they did in the past few years. But i agree foxchase is a great place to live. I think foxchase should get more good press.

I'm not sure there's been any upward movement in jenkintown prices either.home prices might not be a great indicator of neighborhood health given the larger national problems.

[2e1m5a]

Fox Chase has a regional rail station, great residential architecture and seems to have a strong local community. There is no reason to think it will decline like other areas in the Northeast with bland rowhomes and terrible PT.

These neighborhoods in The Northeast that "declined" were always pretty low-income to begin with-just 100% white.
Fox Chase has a healthy Middle-Class.

[danjherman]

Originally Posted by pookybean

I don't think all section 8 renters are bad, or non-working welfare recipients. And while I do think there should be more affordable housing options, there does need to be a cap on how many of these properties are located in each neighborhood.

On a block of say 20 or 30 homes 5 section 8 or renters is not going to bring the neighborhood down. Also, a mix of socio-economic backgrounds can help build the human capital of a neighborhood. Networking for jobs and a interpersonal support system can be established. None of the populations have to feel threatened if there is a healthy mix in the neighborhood. This way the person who may have been raised in section 8, rental or some other non traditional "home owning" family will be able to learn neighborhood pride, how to care for their home (rental or not) and how to respect neighborly boundaries.

This.

I love off Germantown Ave., outside of the sexy W. Mt. Airy section of town. Sure, my block is mixed. It is Philadelphia, it is what I expect. Do I feel any less safe? Nope. Sure, there are pockets where crime is more prevalent, that happens everywhere.

I will at least say this... At least there are SOME resources in place to help with these issues. From where I moved? Their solution was to give indigent folks $100 and a bus ticket and ship them on to somewhere else.

[Snwmn5]

Originally Posted by 2e1m5a

Fox Chase has a regional rail station, great residential architecture and seems to have a strong local community. There is no reason to think it will decline like other areas in the Northeast with bland rowhomes and terrible PT.

These neighborhoods in The Northeast that "declined" were always pretty low-income to begin with-just 100% white.
Fox Chase has a healthy Middle-Class.

Fox Chase is still a great place to live. It's really up to the people in the neighborhood to determine its future. If enough people value living there and want to stay, it should hold strong. Especially with less and less safe, family friendly, and still affordable options in the Lower Northeast. A lot of the cops living here stayed in the neighborhood after they no longer had to be in the city.

[frankgn87]

The same thing happened in Oxford circle, Mayfair, Lawncrest, Wiss and Northwood. Those areas are in a sharp decline which started 15-20 years ago. And its gonna get worse.

[FKD19124]

not true. Frankford had a stable working-middle class and was not solid white.

Originally Posted by 2e1m5a

Fox Chase has a regional rail station, great residential architecture and seems to have a strong local community. There is no reason to think it will decline like other areas in the Northeast with bland rowhomes and terrible PT.

These neighborhoods in The Northeast that "declined" were always pretty low-income to begin with-just 100% white.
Fox Chase has a healthy Middle-Class.

[2e1m5a]

Originally Posted by FKD19124

not true. Frankford had a stable working-middle class and was not solid white.

Frankford's decline is much more similar to Germantown in that industry abandoned the community. It has more to do with deindustrialization and suburban growth than what happened in other Northeast neighborhoods later on in the 1990s-which was mostly just white flight.

[FKD19124]

The major nail in the coffin was the closing of the Sears department store and warehouse plant.
Sears was a big employer. Once that went, the truck yard behind it closed, Canada Dry and other factories closed, not necessarily in Frankford, but employed many from Frankford and surrounding Lawncrest, Cresentville etc.

Originally Posted by 2e1m5a

Frankford's decline is much more similar to Germantown in that industry abandoned the community. It has more to do with deindustrialization and suburban growth than what happened in other Northeast neighborhoods later on in the 1990s-which was mostly just white flight.

[jazzy jeff]

Originally Posted by Snwmn5

Fox Chase is still a great place to live. It's really up to the people in the neighborhood to determine its future. If enough people value living there and want to stay, it should hold strong. Especially with less and less safe, family friendly, and still affordable options in the Lower Northeast. A lot of the cops living here stayed in the neighborhood after they no longer had to be in the city.

I think Fox Chase will remain a good area because St Ce's is a strong parish, and they share a youth sports organization with next door Rockledge.

[Larry Bowa]

Originally Posted by jazzy jeff

A lot of Chinese are moving into Rhawnhurst and the amazing thing is many are paying "cash" for their homes. These people certainly will not bring down a neighborhood.

It's a lot cheaper than New York ...