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Old 01-18-2014, 05:19 PM
 
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Okay, so I have been house hunting for quite some time now. To be exact, almost a year and I love love love old houses, brick and mortar! But what I am finding is that older homes that I like are too pricey for my budget, and those that are within my budget are lacking in many aspects.
Anyways, I am looking at new builds as plan B and considering some newer construction but I am very hesitant to buy a newer house b/c they seem to lack quality. Today I went to look at townhouses in Phoenixville and didn't even leave my car. The damn things are thin particle boards covered by toilet paper!!! It looked like a big IKEA particle board house. I believe they will put some kind of fiber glass in b/w the walls for some kind of sound insulation, but wanted to ask if anyone lives in houses like this - can. you. hear. your. neighbour. fart? No, seriously? Can you?

I am from Eastern Europe. We use brick, mortar, cement, solid materials for new builds. I don't get it why would someone want to live in a particle board house covered by vinyl siding and pay so much money for it? Maybe its great quality and I am missing something? Aren't you scared that one serious storm may blow your house away? What is better, old house or new house quality vise!
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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Quality new construction will always cost more than an old home.

You're not looking at quality custom new construction.

If you can't afford an old house, you can't afford quality new construction.

Instead of complaining, I recommend saving more money to buy an older home.

Or save even more money to buy a new custom built home made of the materials you prefer.

Or move back to Eastern Europe.
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Old 01-18-2014, 07:40 PM
 
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Quality new construction will always cost more than an old home.

You're not looking at quality custom new construction.

If you can't afford an old house, you can't afford quality new construction.

Instead of complaining, I recommend saving more money to buy an older home.

Or save even more money to buy a new custom built home made of the materials you prefer.

Or move back to Eastern Europe.
Not sure what you refer to as "more money" but for about 800K Toll Brothers new construction homes in Phoenixville are also made of particle board and toilet paper. What is quality new construction that I should safe up money for? Links please.
Certainly you took this thread to close to your myocaridum since you are so aggressive t/w me... perhaps you live in one of those "quality" homes or just don't like hot Eastern European women

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Old 01-18-2014, 08:20 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I live in a brick 120 year old Victorian.

The newer construction do look flimsy to me.

My recommendation is to keep looking for a solid older home. They are not all expensive.
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:12 PM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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Not sure what you refer to as "more money" but for about 800K Toll Brothers new construction homes in Phoenixville are also made of particle board and toilet paper. What is quality new construction that I should safe up money for? Links please.
Certainly you took this thread to close to your myocaridum since you are so aggressive t/w me... perhaps you live in one of those "quality" homes or just don't like hot Eastern European women
I DO.....Like HOT Eastern European Women. lol
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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You may have to adjust your expectations. What's your budget? I'm buying a pretty solid old brick house in East Falls, and it's only $169,000.
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:34 PM
 
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It's not particle board, it's OSB. It's not toilet paper, it's Tyvec (makes terrible toilet paper, very hard to tear and no absorbency). I don't know whether those particular houses are any good for sound insulation, but you certainly can have good sound insulation with that kind of construction. The houses I lived in nearby had the same construction and I only heard the neighbors through the open windows.
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:59 PM
 
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Certainly you took this thread to close to your myocaridum since you are so aggressive t/w me... perhaps you live in one of those "quality" homes or just don't like hot Eastern European women
There's nothing aggressive about my telling you that if you can't afford what you want, you'll have to save up to have it, settle for something else, or move to where you can afford it. My house is 120 years old.
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Old 01-19-2014, 07:02 PM
 
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Okay, so I have been house hunting for quite some time now. To be exact, almost a year and I love love love old houses, brick and mortar! But what I am finding is that older homes that I like are too pricey for my budget, and those that are within my budget are lacking in many aspects.
Anyways, I am looking at new builds as plan B and considering some newer construction but I am very hesitant to buy a newer house b/c they seem to lack quality. Today I went to look at townhouses in Phoenixville and didn't even leave my car. The damn things are thin particle boards covered by toilet paper!!! It looked like a big IKEA particle board house. I believe they will put some kind of fiber glass in b/w the walls for some kind of sound insulation, but wanted to ask if anyone lives in houses like this - can. you. hear. your. neighbour. fart? No, seriously? Can you?

I am from Eastern Europe. We use brick, mortar, cement, solid materials for new builds. I don't get it why would someone want to live in a particle board house covered by vinyl siding and pay so much money for it? Maybe its great quality and I am missing something? Aren't you scared that one serious storm may blow your house away? What is better, old house or new house quality vise!
I am from eastern Europe too, and yes housing here is built same way everywhere, like crap.
Those do have horrible noise and thermo insulation, and any decent tornado or hurricane will turn it into dust. Thankfully Phila rarely sees such events. They also start to rot fairly soon especially in humid climates like east coast.
The funny thing is when you ask americans about why the hell "rich" country like US has such poor housing standards, all you here is "it's cost" . Same goes for eating junk food.
Americans cannot afford decent housing and food, too busy paying bills and paying off debts. So much for "american dream".
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Old 01-19-2014, 07:19 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I am from eastern Europe too, and yes housing here is built same way everywhere, like crap.
Those do have horrible noise and thermo insulation, and any decent tornado or hurricane will turn it into dust. Thankfully Phila rarely sees such events. They also start to rot fairly soon especially in humid climates like east coast.
The funny thing is when you ask americans about why the hell "rich" country like US has such poor housing standards, all you here is "it's cost" . Same goes for eating junk food.
Americans cannot afford decent housing and food, too busy paying bills and paying off debts. So much for "american dream".
To be fair - and I have traveled to eastern Europe several times - some of the ugliest and I mean U G L Y apartment buildings and housing projects are in that part of the world.

There's even an architectural term for it: Commie Blocks.
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