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Old 03-27-2014, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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Originally Posted by Charlie Cheesesteak View Post
don't you read the news? pa just passed a transportation bill sending millions to septa... they also just sent a bunch of money to the philly school district.
What are you smoking? Septa is still criminally underfunded and receives the smallest per passenger funding of any major transit agency in the country.

A "bunch" of money was sent to the school district? You have a very weird definition of a "bunch." The money given to the district represents a FRACTION of the money cut from it since Corbett came into office.

Fact: barely half of the tax dollars that are collected from the Philly metro are sent back from Harrisburg. Philly deeply subsidizes the rest of this state.
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Old 03-27-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Northeast Suburbs of PITTSBURGH
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What are you smoking? Septa is still criminally underfunded and receives the smallest per passenger funding of any major transit agency in the country.

A "bunch" of money was sent to the school district? You have a very weird definition of a "bunch." The money given to the district represents a FRACTION of the money cut from it since Corbett came into office.

Fact: barely half of the tax dollars that are collected from the Philly metro are sent back from Harrisburg. Philly deeply subsidizes the rest of this state.
Agreed. Its a shame Philadelphia and Pittsburgh aren't on the same side of the state. If they were and the state was split, they both be so much better off. 90% of the states money comes from those areas and both get squat in return.
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Old 03-27-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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What are you smoking?
actually i don't smoke. philadelphia is a part of a commonwealth... i don't think you understand what that means. do yourself a favor and read a book.
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Old 03-27-2014, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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A "bunch" of money was sent to the school district? You have a very weird definition of a "bunch." The money given to the district represents a FRACTION of the money cut from it since Corbett came into office.
The Philadelphia school district was the only one experiencing cuts from the state?

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actually i don't smoke.
I don't either, but after reading some of these posts I wish I did ...
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Old 03-27-2014, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Philly
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Philadelphia receives more in tax dollars than it sends harrisburg though the amount it receives is most likely down since a huge chunk of the state's subsidy to the city was the school district. when the formula was rejiggered to be more "fair" it took a huge chunk from Philly and sent it back to other counties. the Philadephia suburbs pay more than they get back, enough to pay for the city and the rural counties. the same information is not available for Pittsburgh because it's generally at the county level and Philadelphia is the only city coterminus with its county
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Old 03-27-2014, 02:26 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Philadelphia receives more in tax dollars than it sends harrisburg though the amount it receives is most likely down since a huge chunk of the state's subsidy to the city was the school district. when the formula was rejiggered to be more "fair" it took a huge chunk from Philly and sent it back to other counties. the Philadephia suburbs pay more than they get back, enough to pay for the city and the rural counties. the same information is not available for Pittsburgh because it's generally at the county level and Philadelphia is the only city coterminus with its county
If you're talking about the revenue/spending ratio at the state level, Allegheny County might take it up the ass harder than any other county in Pennsylvania.
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Old 03-27-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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actually i don't smoke. philadelphia is a part of a commonwealth... i don't think you understand what that means. do yourself a favor and read a book.
Haha someone who dubs himself charlie cheesesteak is lecturing me on reading a book. okay... not exactly sure what I've written that leads you to think I'm uneducated or ignorant. Feel free to point it out.

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Philadelphia receives more in tax dollars than it sends harrisburg though the amount it receives is most likely down since a huge chunk of the state's subsidy to the city was the school district. when the formula was rejiggered to be more "fair" it took a huge chunk from Philly and sent it back to other counties. the Philadephia suburbs pay more than they get back, enough to pay for the city and the rural counties. the same information is not available for Pittsburgh because it's generally at the county level and Philadelphia is the only city coterminus with its county
When I spoke of Philadelphia giving more than it got back I included the near counties. After all how could you even consider the economy of Bucks, Montgomery, etc when so much of it is centered on Philadelphia and so many people who work in Philly live in those counties and vice versa. Not only is hard to separate the money leaving the philly metro it is also hard to separate the money coming back, for example money heading to Septa also serves those counties. The main point is the vast majority of the money coming to harrisburg is coming from the Philadelphia Metro and instead of propping the city up and making it better, harrisburg and the rest of the state leach of us.

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If you're talking about the revenue/spending ratio at the state level, Allegheny County might take it up the ass harder than any other county in Pennsylvania.
I believe it's actually montgomery county who has the worst differential and the other suburban counties I think are worse as well. Those counties reap the benefits of being near a major metropolitan center while most of the poverty and need for spending in the area is concentrated outside their county in Philadelphia. In Allegheny you have the wealthy suburbs but also Pittsburgh itself and the poverty within the city that requires a lot of spending. If your point however is that Allegheny County is also underfunded by Harrisburg then I absolutely agree.

In general it seems like more than any other state PA treats its urban centers very poorly. It's not even just economic either. Harrisburg has continually stepped in and prevented Philadelphia (and I think Pittsburgh as well) from passing common sense gun laws despite all the destruction it causes in these cities.

Put simply they hate cities even though without Pittsburgh and Philly the rest of this state would be a more racist, poorer Alabama.
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Brookline, PGH
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Put simply they hate cities even though without Pittsburgh and Philly the rest of this state would be a more racist, poorer Alabama.
Pardon the Marxist rant, but petty rural/urban divides continue to be the most effective socio-cultural diversion to distract the American proletariat from it's corporate parasites. Way to buy into it, bubba.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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Pardon the Marxist rant, but petty rural/urban divides continue to be the most effective socio-cultural diversion to distract the American proletariat from it's corporate parasites. Way to buy into it, bubba.
American proletariat? Hilarious. Please, if you're not late to your philosophy 101 class, give me more perspective from the 19th century. It is truly relevant to this world Karl Marx couldn't have even imagined.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Philly
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Pardon the Marxist rant, but petty rural/urban divides continue to be the most effective socio-cultural diversion to distract the American proletariat from it's corporate parasites. Way to buy into it, bubba.
yes if we could only trade them in for marxist parasites wed be so much better
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