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Old 04-27-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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Raena it is not the same thing, totally different taste
The one big difference I can think of is that subs often come dressed in oil and vinegar, whereas hoagies usually just have oil.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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The difference is the amount of meat and the type of roll that's used to separate a sub and a hoagie
There is no difference between a sub and a hoagie. They're both the same thing, hoagie is just a regional name for a sub.

The problem is you're comparing restaurant sandwiches on fresh rolls to subway's fastfood sub styled sandwiches. Because of the region we're in, every sandwich with meat, cheese, lettuce, etc on a roll is called a hoagie. But because Subway is a national chain of sub sandwiches they're still subs, even in philly. They are of course gross, but you shouldn't assume that all subs are like subways.

If you go to Northern NJ you can a italian sub sandwich that looks and tastes almost exactly (same type of roll, same about meat) like a good italian hoagie here in Philly, they just call it a sub instead of hoagie. By the same token I've gotten some really dismal sandwiches here in philly that were ostensibly called "hoagies" but that more closely resembled some type of subway garbage.

Hoagie and Sub are two names for the same type of sandwich, there is no characteristic that can reliably define one from the other. This type of Sandwich generally tastes different in the Philly area than elsewhere, but that's not so much due to the name as simply regional difference in cuisine. A crab cake for example tastes different (and better) in Baltimore than anywhere else, but those crab cakes that you get elsewhere are still crab cakes. Just as a sub and hoagie are the same type of sandwich, even if Philly's hoagie is the best version of said sandwich.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:40 AM
 
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The one big difference I can think of is that subs often come dressed in oil and vinegar, whereas hoagies usually just have oil.
Yes but you can still order a hoagie in Philly and get vinegar on it, or mayo, or whatever and it doesn't stop being a hoagie. The key indicator of what makes a hoagie is not what comprises the sandwich, but rather where you purchased it. If you purchased it in the philly metro it's a hoagie, just about anywhere else it's a sub unless it's a hero, zeppelin, grinder, etc.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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Yes but you can still order a hoagie in Philly and get vinegar on it, or mayo, or whatever and it doesn't stop being a hoagie. The key indicator of what makes a hoagie is not what comprises the sandwich, but rather where you purchased it. If you purchased it in the philly metro it's a hoagie, just about anywhere else it's a sub unless it's a hero, zeppelin, grinder, etc.
Zeps are a completely different animal--highly specific mode of preparation. A grinder, as you probably know, is a toasted hoagie in Philly and a plain old long sandwich in New England.

I would liken hoagies and subs to half-siblings. As conventionally and ideally prepared, while there are many similarities, there are also a few subtle differences.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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I go to primo hoagies. Dibruno bros used to be good for hoagies until they made that super store on chesnut st.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:54 AM
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There is no difference between a sub and a hoagie. They're both the same thing, hoagie is just a regional name for a sub.

The problem is you're comparing restaurant sandwiches on fresh rolls to subway's fastfood sub styled sandwiches. Because of the region we're in, every sandwich with meat, cheese, lettuce, etc on a roll is called a hoagie. But because Subway is a national chain of sub sandwiches they're still subs, even in philly. They are of course gross, but you shouldn't assume that all subs are like subways.

If you go to Northern NJ you can a italian sub sandwich that looks and tastes almost exactly (same type of roll, same about meat) like a good italian hoagie here in Philly, they just call it a sub instead of hoagie. By the same token I've gotten some really dismal sandwiches here in philly that were ostensibly called "hoagies" but that more closely resembled some type of subway garbage.

Hoagie and Sub are two names for the same type of sandwich, there is no characteristic that can reliably define one from the other. This type of Sandwich generally tastes different in the Philly area than elsewhere, but that's not so much due to the name as simply regional difference in cuisine. A crab cake for example tastes different (and better) in Baltimore than anywhere else, but those crab cakes that you get elsewhere are still crab cakes. Just as a sub and hoagie are the same type of sandwich, even if Philly's hoagie is the best version of said sandwich.

There will always be a difference between a sub and hoagie
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:15 PM
 
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Always thought a Hoagie was just a Philly name for a Sub. So what in your opinion is the difference between a sub and a hoagie?
There is none. Most likely those who think there is have never eaten a sub anywhere else.
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:49 PM
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There is none. Most likely those who think there is have never eaten a sub anywhere else.

Can you explain to me why there is no difference between a sub and a hoagie? I ate both last week and had a different taste
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:15 PM
 
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I think that "sub" is an umbrella term for sandwiches on long rolls, but they are not all the same thing.
Typically, Heros (Heroes?) you get in NYC have the rolls cut all the way through, and all the ingredients horizontal and stacked up like a regular sandwich. As opposed to a hoagie, in which the roll is cut partway through (or scooped out), filled with ingredients, and is held and eaten with the cut side up. Makes a huge difference, as all the juices from the various pickles & peppers mix together and stay in the Hoagie. It's a lot juicier and more flavorful this way, even if made with identical ingredients.
Also, the typical rolls in Philly are better, and are more suited to the aforementioned juice-catching configuration.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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I think that "sub" is an umbrella term for sandwiches on long rolls, but they are not all the same thing.
Typically, Heros (Heroes?) you get in NYC have the rolls cut all the way through, and all the ingredients horizontal and stacked up like a regular sandwich. As opposed to a hoagie, in which the roll is cut partway through (or scooped out), filled with ingredients, and is held and eaten with the cut side up. Makes a huge difference, as all the juices from the various pickles & peppers mix together and stay in the Hoagie. It's a lot juicier and more flavorful this way, even if made with identical ingredients.
Also, the typical rolls in Philly are better, and are more suited to the aforementioned juice-catching configuration.
Yep. Same basic concept, but a few minor regional differences go along with the name changes.
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