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Old 05-15-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Philly
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philadelphia is a rust belt city and a lot of people overlook that. the abandonment is like baltimore, the last list I saw had spring garden as the most expensive place to rent in philly. otoh, the area around chelten is mostly highrise and presumably affordable rents are in older walkups. the reality is that Philadelphia fell very far and those scars are most visible in north philly but they're also visible in germantown. both places "need improvement" in my mind. in places like francisville the blight is disappearing quickly (in places like northern liberties its mostly gone). Philadelphia isn't perfect but neither is any other place. people walk a lot in philly (even if not to work since jobs migrated to the burbs) but a lot of the good things about philly appear to be growing or improving. crime is down (in fact, the areas that saw the largest reductions in crime between 2012 and 2013 were mainly lower north philly and germantown). the parks are improving slowly, vacant lots are being built on, dilapidated building being renovated. the most complete"urban experience" to me is south philly you get off the subway at tasker morris and there's a tent where someone sells fruits and vegetables. there are bakeries, independent shops, supermarkets. I love northwest Philadelphia but mostly because of the homes and the greenery.

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Old 05-15-2014, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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OK, so I am NOT joining the odd "neighborhood vs neighborhood" battle in this thread.


Basically, there was a pretty high level of retail and commerce. People came down to "the avenue" from other neighborhoods to shop. The 23 & 53 still ran down Wayne and Germantown Aves. There was an historic YMCA AND a, historic YWCA on either side of Vernon park. Big private school campuses (Germantown Academy, then Stevens school, and GFS, and Penn Charter just down the street), Quaker meeting houses, and the NW Regional Library, which as mentioned is still one of the biggest and best branches of the Phila Free Library. Maplewood "mall" (a cobblestone pedestrian lane) was still full of shops. There was a Cricket Club. It was really quite an active place, with a real downtown complete with a city hall and a 17th century town square. If it were its own city it would have been one of the largest in PA at one point (I was once told "second largest", but I cannot verify that fact).

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I'm guessing not second largest - considering Pittsburgh. But top 5, definitely.

There's still a Cricket Club, and some lovely large banks - Wells Fargo and Citizens. The old Rowell is the current Walgreens.
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Old 05-15-2014, 11:50 AM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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I'm guessing not second largest - considering Pittsburgh. But top 5, definitely.

There's still a Cricket Club, and some lovely large banks - Wells Fargo and Citizens. The old Rowell is the current Walgreens.
Germantown is older than Pittsburgh though, and Pittsburgh didn't really start getting large until the late 19th century. So it still may have been.
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Old 05-15-2014, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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everyone has an opinion. yes, you are limited, but just how limited is a matter of debate. some people drive everywhere and that's great for them, it doesn't make their life better. the trenton line is ok, it has poor off peak headways, the 25 bus is garbage which is why it has low ridership.
Oh, it's makes their life better ... lol

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Old 05-15-2014, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Ah, I guess I misinterpreted some of your post I quoted, then. You just have a simple preference to have a car; I can certainly understand how Bridesburg would be convenient enough to NE Philly, South Jersey and - if budgeting for parking - Center City.
Re: Parking in CC - I'm cheap and I like to walk, so I usually find a free spot or park in my g/f's spot in Chinatown. But I will pay if I have to.

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Old 05-15-2014, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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OK, so I am NOT joining the odd "neighborhood vs neighborhood" battle in this thread.



FWIW: Of course, I'm pro-Bridesburg, but I'd like to see ALL the neighborhoods that need some tlc improve - Germantown, Point Breeze, Kensington, wherever - it creates a better qol for all of us who plan on staying here.
We frequent Kellianne's (16th and Spring Garden) on occasion ... is Francisville north of there? Some beautiful properties back there.
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Old 05-15-2014, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Philly
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Oh, it's makes their life better ... lol
it might yes. kelli anns is the spring garden neighborhood
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Old 05-15-2014, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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it might yes. kelli anns is the spring garden neighborhood
I know. Is Francisville north of there?

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Old 05-16-2014, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Finally looks like Market East may actually see some improvement via private investment. The plan for the 1200 block of Market-Chestnut looks impressive and will help Center City shed its underrated reputation.

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...t-east-to.html
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Old 05-16-2014, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Philly
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I know. Is Francisville north of there?
fairmount to girard, broad to corinthian. the homes are nowhere near as nice as spring garden for the most part.
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