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Old 07-07-2014, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Hello all,

I just returned home from a weekend trip to Philly. It is the second time I've visited the city and first time in 21 years. I must say I thoroughly enjoyed the sights and found it even more worthwhile than the first time when I was just a kid. Thanks to everyone who gave me information about Eastwick Station and environs, that area really is pretty quiet and I would not want to have walked across Bartram Avenue in the dead of winter but at this time we had no problems.

A few highlights I must point out:

SEPTA Regional Rail - really quiet, clean, and comfortable. $12 All Day Independence Pass was actually a great deal given that the user gets to ride around on Regional Rail as well. Something the MBTA here in Boston ought to think about.

SEPTA Subway - Heavy rail kind of New Yorkish and light rail/streetcar a cross between Boston and Toronto in my opinion but I like it. Trains could be a little more frequent on weekends but no complaints.

Route #15 Girard Avenue - surprisingly busy and crowded route. PCC trolleys look to be in better condition than our Mattapan High Speed Line though.

National Constitution Museum - good little museum for history buffs but a bit pricey for its size.

Philadelphia Museum of Art - the opposite. Big! So big we didn't even have time to see everything. Good rival to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC in my opinion. The one drawback about the museum is actually GETTING to the museum by public transit. Only a network of local buses takes the tourist close to the museum and one has to worry about not missing the correct stop. It would have been much more convenient if SEPTA built a subway line parallel to Fairmount Park with a station right beside the museum. Almost all major cities I visited has rapid transit close to their premiere museums and destinations. Perhaps that's too much to ask?

Chinatown - surprisingly bustling, even more so than the last time we were here. It seems busier than Boston's Chinatown and I even wonder if Philly's East Asian population has surpassed Boston's.

Gallery at Market East - good concept. Mall itself looks kind of dated but the transit oriented location is so strategic for retail that I am sure something can be done to improve it.

Market Street and environs - testament that Philly really is a vibrant, lively city.

I also visited the gigantic King of Prussia Mall which like the Mall of America in Minnesota I found overrated and drove around University City, which would have been much livelier during the school year I imagine.

Anyways, it was a really nice trip! I even learned some new Philly vocabulary:

"Hoagie" = what we normally call a submarine sandwich or just "sub"

Thanks all!
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Last weekend was awesome. Pretty sure I convinced my mom to move. We just took a cab back and forth from the museum of art. Basically $10 a ride but it was an excuse to take a cab. They seriously need a subway that at least ends there.
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Hello all,
Glad you enjoyed! Visit again soon!

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National Constitution Museum - good little museum for history buffs but a bit pricey for its size.
You'll have to visit when the Museum of the American Revolution is complete.
Home | Museum of the American Revolution

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Philadelphia Museum of Art - the opposite. Big! So big we didn't even have time to see everything. Good rival to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC in my opinion. The one drawback about the museum is actually GETTING to the museum by public transit. Only a network of local buses takes the tourist close to the museum and one has to worry about not missing the correct stop. It would have been much more convenient if SEPTA built a subway line parallel to Fairmount Park with a station right beside the museum. Almost all major cities I visited has rapid transit close to their premiere museums and destinations. Perhaps that's too much to ask?
It is a great museum. If you didn't have time to check out the Barnes Museum as well I would check that out next time. There is talks to build a light rail line/semi-subway line between Center City and the Museum. Hopefully it happens. The issue is that SEPTA has been underfunded for decades and has finally received more funding. However, it is still severely under funded at $600 million a year where MBTA in Boston receives over $1 billion a year in funding.

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Gallery at Market East - good concept. Mall itself looks kind of dated but the transit oriented location is so strategic for retail that I am sure something can be done to improve it.
They are moving to redevelop the entire mall and make it high end.
PREIT's Mysterious Redevelopment Project Is Less Elusive. Sort of.

As of now, all of Center City's high end retailers are located along Walnut and Chestnut Streets between B Broad and 19th. This is where you will find your Madewell's, Ralph Lauren's, Armani Exchange's, etc.

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I also visited the gigantic King of Prussia Mall which like the Mall of America in Minnesota I found overrated and drove around University City, which would have been much livelier during the school year I imagine.
King of Prussia is good for what it is, a suburban shopping mall. This is where most of the Philadelphia area's high end shopping is located however Center City is quickly gaining more and more high end retail. University City is very lively during the school year, but there have been more and more companies moving to UCity and apartment building geared towards non-students coming up recently which will make it more vibrant year round.

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Anyways, it was a really nice trip! I even learned some new Philly vocabulary:

"Hoagie" = what we normally call a submarine sandwich or just "sub"

Thanks all!
Again, glad you enjoyed! Boston is a lovely city too that Philly could learn a thing or two from.

Come back soon.
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:20 AM
 
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Last weekend was awesome. Pretty sure I convinced my mom to move. We just took a cab back and forth from the museum of art. Basically $10 a ride but it was an excuse to take a cab. They seriously need a subway that at least ends there.
The idea of building a subway through one of the most lovely parts of the city has been brought up many times over the years. I have very mixed feelings about it.

I never see any discussion about the disruption it would cause to people, like me , who actuallly live in the adjacent neighborhoods. Years of construction(and the inevitable delays), detours for pedestrians, bicyclists and motorists.

When the commuter tunnel and Market East Station were built 30 years ago, Center City was not nearly as interesting and inviting as it is now. Do we really want to jeopardize that?
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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When the commuter tunnel and Market East Station were built 30 years ago, Center City was not nearly as interesting and inviting as it is now. Do we really want to jeopardize that?
I guess we can afford to jeopardize how uninteresting and uninviting the parkway is now compared to how it will be?
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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The idea of building a subway through one of the most lovely parts of the city has been brought up many times over the years. I have very mixed feelings about it.

I never see any discussion about the disruption it would cause to people, like me , who actuallly live in the adjacent neighborhoods. Years of construction(and the inevitable delays), detours for pedestrians, bicyclists and motorists.

When the commuter tunnel and Market East Station were built 30 years ago, Center City was not nearly as interesting and inviting as it is now. Do we really want to jeopardize that?
A good solution to getting to the Art Museum, Please Touch Museum, and Zoo is the Phlash, which is a tourist trolley that runs in the summer and stops at key tourist locations.

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Old 07-08-2014, 07:58 AM
 
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Glad you enjoyed your visit, OP!
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Always nice to hear from visitors! Glad you had fun!
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Old 07-12-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: The City of Brotherly Love
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OP, I am so glad that you enjoyed all that our beautiful city has to offer! Be sure to come and visit again soon!

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The idea of building a subway through one of the most lovely parts of the city has been brought up many times over the years. I have very mixed feelings about it.

I never see any discussion about the disruption it would cause to people, like me , who actuallly live in the adjacent neighborhoods. Years of construction(and the inevitable delays), detours for pedestrians, bicyclists and motorists.

When the commuter tunnel and Market East Station were built 30 years ago, Center City was not nearly as interesting and inviting as it is now. Do we really want to jeopardize that?
For years now, I have always advocated for a subway covering The Parkway, Fairmount Park, Penn's Landing, and South Street. Some of our most coveted destinations are not covered by subway. With new tunnel boring technology, less street closures may be possible if SEPTA does take action on building a new subway line.
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Old 07-12-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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With new tunnel boring technology, less street closures may be possible if SEPTA does take action on building a new subway line.
It's really quite fraudulent that despite our technological advances and over all more efficient economy that subway creation is now somehow unaffordable yet before they somehow managed to afford it? We pay heafty taxes, we want / need a new subway, where the f is it? And please no more of these trolley / MFL half implemented disasters, go back and fix that one if you want to implement another.
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