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Old 12-27-2007, 05:25 PM
 
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http://cbs3.com/topstories/Genos.Steaks.Sign.2.610918.html (broken link)

PHILADELPHIA (CBS3/AP) ― The Philadelphia Commission on Human Relations held a public hearing Friday to address a controversial sign at the popular Geno's Steaks that has garnered worldwide attention.

The hearing was scheduled after allegations were made accusing Geno's Steaks of discrimination for posting a sign that reads: "This Is America. When Ordering Speak English."

Geno's owner Joey Vento said it is "free speech" and defended his policy during Friday's hearing.



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Old 12-27-2007, 07:10 PM
 
Location: yeah
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Those poor, oppressed Anglophones...their culture is dying.
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:07 AM
 
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I can see his point. The place is a big tourist draw and they like to keep the lines moving. Kind of like the soup nazi, except that most locals say both Pat's and Geno's steaks are pretty poor, especially's Pat's. So you get somebody jabbering and you can't understand them, what do you do? Have them point at pictures, or slowly repeat everything on the menu until they nod in agreement? That will slow down the line for everybody.
Of course, foreign tourists should be given some slack, but I'm pretty sure they aren't too numerous. Hello, this is Philly so you expect some attitude. I think the city goverment showed it still has its priorities upside down and backwards by not rallying to defend him from the malcontents who had nothing better to do that target him for being politically incorrect.
Now that being said, he probably has a dozen illegals working for him in the kitchens like every other city restaurant.
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:13 AM
 
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Pat's steaks are terrible.

Tony Luke's or Jims are much better.
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:32 PM
 
Location: FL
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I think it's fine. And I'm not racist- my best friend is 100% Mexican. However, I am tired of going to stores and having the workers barely, if at all, speak English and do not know what I want or are not able to help me! So as a business owner, I can see how he feels that people come and he can't understand them, and then if they get the order wrong there are arguments...if we went to another country we couldn't expect them to understand English...
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Bensonhurst, Brooklyn
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"Geno" is the man. And I (along with other people) actually respect him for his decision to not hire a bunch of immigrants like Pat's does (at least it was like that last time I checked), even though I think Pat's is better. God I miss me a cheesesteak. Here in Bensonhurst, there are canoli's and hoagies (or what they call heros here) everywhere, which is phenominal, but I'd kill for a good steak sandwich right now.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Scranton
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cbs3.com - Geno's Owner Defends 'Speak English' Sign (http://cbs3.com/topstories/Genos.Steaks.Sign.2.610918.html - broken link)

PHILADELPHIA (CBS3/AP) ― The Philadelphia Commission on Human Relations held a public hearing Friday to address a controversial sign at the popular Geno's Steaks that has garnered worldwide attention.

The hearing was scheduled after allegations were made accusing Geno's Steaks of discrimination for posting a sign that reads: "This Is America. When Ordering Speak English."

Geno's owner Joey Vento said it is "free speech" and defended his policy during Friday's hearing.



Your comments please.
It absolutely is free speech. Its his business, he can do what he wants with it. Its also everyone else's right to speak with their wallets and not patronize Geno's if they don't like the sign. If he loses enough business, you can be sure he'd take down the sign.

Personally, I agree with the sign and am more likely to stop at Geno's for a cheesteak for the stand that Joey Vento is taking. Pat's sucks anyways. Pat's is downright horrible. Jim's is my favorite.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:03 AM
 
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a bunch of immigrants
nice...how far we have come. unless you are a full blooded Native American, you are the product of immigrants.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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nice...how far we have come. unless you are a full blooded Native American, you are the product of immigrants.

Even the "Native" Americans are immigrants, it just depends when you came here.

Anyway, the difference is that my German ancestors and my husband's Italian ancestors didn't come here and expect everyone to speak German and Italian...they learned English! They also worked hard and didn't expect handouts from anyone.
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:29 PM
 
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Normally, I would scorn all things Philly and wouldn't even bother with a thread about it... but this one caught my attention.

I am as big a defender of immigrant rights as you are likely to find and even I have to say that the man has a point. You can't expect the person taking your order to speak Spanish, Arabic, Malagasy or whatever the Hell else. I have always defended people who are speaking thier own language amounst themselves... and there are people who say that "this is America, speak English (period)" and they are just ignorant jerks. But when you are conducting business, ordering something, working with those who don't speak your native language... well, then this is America... speak English.
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