Something everyone keeps saying about Philly...? (Philadelphia, York: university, living, costs)

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by motownewave

Gee, African Americans are still treated with contempt down there (as in all states south of the Mason-Dixon Line except maybe Maryland and Delaware) so why on earth would gays move down there? Most folks there (black and white alike) are religious and see homosexuality as something they want nothing to do with.

And you know this how?

[pman]

People don't want to live in philly because of the drive in from the airport? Suspect thesis for sure.
I think lots of people say they like some other place but wouldn't want to live there. I've said it about nyc and I'm sure I'm not the first

[MarketStEl]

It used to be said of my hometown (Kansas City), "It's a nice place to live but I wouldn't want to visit there."

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by pman

People don't want to live in philly because of the drive in from the airport? Suspect thesis for sure.

The scenario given by the OP suggests its visitors to the city giving their opinion. Im guessing 99% of the visitors to Philly spend their time in Center City. Other than maybe Market East -which is improving-there isnt a whole lot to dislike in Center City.Old City,Society Hill,Rittenhouse,Art Museum etc etc..

I cant imagine someone saying ehh Rittenhouse or Queen Village is nice to visit but would not want to live there. So you have to search where the downside is. The downside is that the general vibe of Philly is a great downtown surrounded by a whole lot of grit and ugliness which quite frankly the city does very little to improve.

IMO most visitors flying into Philly commuting via Platt Bridge/26th St/ already have it in their mind they never need to come back to Philly ever again as they merge onto the Schuylkill Exp.. I mean you just passed junk yards,strip joints,sewage treatment plant,oil refineries,ghettsoes. I mean whew it is not a good scene.

[AJNEOA]

In my experience, most Americans would not consider living in a high density environment. I think it has less to do with Philadelphia itself, and more to do with Philadelphia being big, dense and fast-paced. So many Americans prefer their quiet and predictable suburban environments. Again, just my experience.

[Port Pitt Ash]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

If you're talking to people around Asheville, my guess is they have little to no experience with Philly.

Nah, I've don't really take advice from most people I've met in/around Asheville anymore simply because they've steered me wrong so many times when it comes to good places to eat.

It's mostly my friends who have visited the city from all over. Places like Pittsburgh, Portland, Seattle & Washington, Alaska, Buffalo, NYC, Miami, Columbus, Northern CA, SoCAL, St. Louis by way of Africa, and so on.

My brother actually moved there from Pittsburgh and last I checked he didn't like it. Then again that was during the winter so maybe he's changed his tune by now?

Anyway I just thought it was odd since before I moved to Portland Philly was my second choice and once again before I came down to Asheville.

Originally Posted by AJNEOA

In my experience, most Americans would not consider living in a high density environment. I think it has less to do with Philadelphia itself, and more to do with Philadelphia being big, dense and fast-paced. So many Americans prefer their quiet and predictable suburban environments. Again, just my experience.

Thought about that and it might be for some, but it was also common with people from bigger and faster paced places.

It also struck me as odd that the details were so few as to why they didn't like it, almost as if they somehow had trouble articulating the reason(s).

[southbound_295]

Originally Posted by Port Pitt Ash

Nah, I've don't really take advice from most people I've met in/around Asheville anymore simply because they've steered me wrong so many times when it comes to good places to eat.

It's mostly my friends who have visited the city from all over. Places like Pittsburgh, Portland, Seattle & Washington, Alaska, Buffalo, NYC, Miami, Columbus, Northern CA, SoCAL, St. Louis by way of Africa, and so on.

My brother actually moved there from Pittsburgh and last I checked he didn't like it. Then again that was during the winter so maybe he's changed his tune by now?

Anyway I just thought it was odd since before I moved to Portland Philly was my second choice and once again before I came down to Asheville.



Thought about that and it might be for some, but it was also common with people from bigger and faster paced places.

It also struck me as odd that the details were so few as to why they didn't like it, almost as if they somehow had trouble articulating the reason(s).

You've been asking people from the west coast about Philadelphia? That doesn't even make sense.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by motownewave

The two reasons they don't like it should be OBVIOUS! First, it's a very hard city in which to travel by automobile. And secondly, there's so much crime and a general feeling of hopelessness.

The crime is the lowest it's been in 50 years.

"General feeling of hopelessness" (????) Try this. Go out and watch the Broad St Run this Sunday and tell us about how many hopeless people you see there. Even the ones who don't have a lot of money will be out there cheering folks on.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by motownewave

Gee, African Americans are still treated with contempt down there (as in all states south of the Mason-Dixon Line except maybe Maryland and Delaware) so why on earth would gays move down there? Most folks there (black and white alike) are religious and see homosexuality as something they want nothing to do with.

Gay people don't need to move to the south. They've always been there. lol.

I don't think my niece and her family would share your views about how blacks get treated in, say, Birmingham, Alabama. I've been there several times and I didn't feel any differently than I do here. And, yes,
I fully remember, and watched and heard, George Wallace spout, "Segregation now. Segregation tomorrow. Segregation forever!"

I avoid talking about politics when I'm there. But the pervasiveness of Fox News running nonstop does make me want to vomit.

[Port Pitt Ash]

Originally Posted by southbound_295

You've been asking people from the west coast about Philadelphia? That doesn't even make sense.

Why not? They are all people I know personally and have visited Philadelphia. I'm not from Asheville. I've lived all over.

Originally Posted by kyb01

Gay people don't need to move to the south. They've always been there. lol.

This area is a bit odd. I work with a gay guy and most people at work seem okay with this, but whenever black people show up the racist jokes start. Personally I don't get how they can pick and choose what they are going to take issue with.