09-21-2015, 03:34 PM
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Unlike a blizzard, however, is the invaluable exposure and benefit we will achieve if we handle this opportunity successfully. This is especially significant, given opportunities of this magnitude only come around every generation or so.
So you’ve claimed. There’s not really any evidence for that though. As I mentioned before, it’s not like the previous Pope visit ushered in an era of prosperity for Philadelphia. And as I've indicated before, my issue isn't so much that the Pope is coming, it's how the visit is being handled.
09-21-2015, 03:36 PM
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This whole experience, really only online, not in real life in my experience, has been a nice reminder about that weird undercurrent in American society that seeks to personally ostracize people who question authority- even about the most mundane things such as transportation policy during a specific event.
Notice in this thread how often it's been said to just "get over it" and the like, and accusing people of being self-centered and dramatic, yet it's rarely been claimed that all of these measures being taken, specifically with public transportation, are actually intelligent, beneficial, or serve any purpose.
It's a bad plan.
It was a bad plan when they were going to shut down the BSL and MFL - and because of intelligent, questioning people pointing out how bad of a plan it was, and putting pressure on various agencies, SEPTA opened up the BSL and MFL. They specically said this was the case in their press release - due to "customers wishing to travel to work and other non-Francis Festival activitie" - as if people wouldn't want to travel to work or other events in the 5th largest city in the country. And it'll also help people get to see the Pope who want to see the Pope - by allowing them to take the subway there.
The regional rail plan is a bad plan too. The number still aren't out yet - but unless something heroic happened this weekend, the stunningly low number of people even choosing to bother with the 5th largest commuter railroad in the country will prove how bad of a plan it is.
But yeah, it's all about you being personally inconvenienced.
Very well said. Thank you.
09-21-2015, 04:01 PM
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Looks like you have an inside view. I suspect the tourist bureau is savvy enough to do what you say. If not, shame on them.
While the mills were closing, The city announced that they were trying to get into the tourist business & beseeched the public to be nice, helpful, & hospitable to tourists. Most boomers will go out of their way for tourists. I've walked a good many to their destination over the years.
I also know what the techs & reporters who I worked with over the years have said when returning from trips. The out of town reporters might have time for some public interest stories this week. Next year will be the mother-load.
It's just as easy for a POed reporter to do his/her stand-up in front of a pile of trash & a rowdy crowd as it is for a happy news crew to do the stand-up in front of the fountain at Logan Circle, if you know what I mean.
09-21-2015, 04:16 PM
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So you’ve claimed. There’s not really any evidence for that though. As I mentioned before, it’s not like the previous Pope visit ushered in an era of prosperity for Philadelphia. And as I've indicated before, my issue isn't so much that the Pope is coming, it's how the visit is being handled.
Pilgrims for WMF are here or arriving so we are about to truly find out.
09-21-2015, 06:53 PM
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If Most of the WORLD'S media and visitors. Stay just in CENTER CITY and UNIVERSITY CITY. The city may get GOOD REVIEWS internationally. Should for the most part....
But if they venture North and further south. From Center City. They can get the NEGATIVE to show.....
Sad that Many other areas of NY state the rest of Eastern PA Church Buses. Their Dioceses promoted last year. Many had to CANCEL BUSES near me. Mostly elderly wanting to attend.
They found out..... PARKING WOULD BE MILES from the Pope's route and Art Museum.
THEY WERE LITERALLY TOLD. EXPECT TO WALK 4 MILES .
I can't help but think..... some SPECIAL Accommodations for Church Buses to Park closer. Somewhere closer and shuttle buses?
The Dioceses released the sad news....
Bus Trip to Papal Mass » Syracuse Diocese
Earlier in the year they were planning for 8 Buses...
In the Scranton Diocese. Buses were cancelled that had so many elderly.
Such a tight city as Philly was a bit at a disadvantage. But any city would have it difficult to handle the 1-2 million people.
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09-21-2015, 08:16 PM
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If Most of the WORLD'S media and visitors. Stay just in CENTER CITY and UNIVERSITY CITY. The city may get GOOD REVIEWS internationally. Should for the most part....
But if they venture North and further south. From Center City. They can get the NEGATIVE to show.....
Lol.. stopped after this. Steeps... I was going to write something mean.. but I will just say keep your negative opinions to yourself.
I am excited the time is here. I will try to provide photos of my experience if I can.
09-21-2015, 08:35 PM
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Lol.. stopped after this. Steeps... I was going to write something mean.. but I will just say keep your negative opinions to yourself.
I am excited the time is here. I will try to provide photos of my experience if I can.
It was in the news by me last week. The thread topic is about the Pope's visit. Good the Bad and the Ugly. Is that not a negative? It was for them. Buses canceled...
It was a disappointment to those that planned for months.... Dioceses promoted buses. Then they got the BAD AND UGLY Officially. DID YOU NOT READ WHAT PHILLY TOLD THEM? The Syracuse Diocese PUBLISHED WHAT THEY WERE TOLD. READ IT. Do not blame me making anything up here.
It is truely Best for Philly if the International Media sticks to the good of Center City and University City.
Enough argued about and ask the OP what he/she means by BAD AND UGLY TOO? If this news Dioceses got on Busloads of Parishioners.... many were elderly.
I could have said yeah Philly will get still looked over more... and DC and NYC still get most of the coverage.... But i thought that would bring the heat.... not actual Truth in the news.
I am sure for those seeing the Pope and on his motorcade will be satisfied.....
09-21-2015, 08:41 PM
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I don't know what that means, I was commenting on the fact that you doing your normal little jabs has nothing to do with this event.. done talking about it.
Anyway the fact the Pope is speaking to congress, the entire UN Council, and headlining the Catholic Churches largest modern festival makes this quite a trip. I wonder how people will react to him and his thoughts on inequality and social justice.
09-21-2015, 08:52 PM
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I don't know what that means, I was commenting on the fact that you doing your normal little jabs has nothing to do with this event.. done talking about it.
Anyway the fact the Pope is speaking to congress, the entire UN Council, and headlining the Catholic Churches largest modern festival makes this quite a trip. I wonder how people will react to him and his thoughts on inequality and social justice.
I addressed what was on Northeastern PA TV News media. I generally watch channel 16 news out of Scranton. It gives me my local news too. When i saw this thread under New Post. Sorry you see any negative in a thread MENTIONING "GOOD BAD and the UGLY". As don't dare give any??
I said nothing wrong. If you merely NEVER READ THE DIOSESE NEWS SIGHT... and merely saw in my post.... I hope the International News Media and visitors stick to Center City and University City. Not North or too far south.
No different then some saying.... hope they would stay away from some parts of South Chicago. Though it really does not look bad today. But its about crime.
If i said hope they don't venture into Camden NJ? Would you have not got Offended? Its another State they say? Not Philly.
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09-21-2015, 09:03 PM
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If Most of the WORLD'S media and visitors. Stay just in CENTER CITY and UNIVERSITY CITY. The city may get GOOD REVIEWS internationally. Should for the most part....
But if they venture North and further south. From Center City. They can get the NEGATIVE to show.....
Sad that Many other areas of NY state the rest of Eastern PA Church Buses. Their Dioceses promoted last year. Many had to CANCEL BUSES near me. Mostly elderly wanting to attend.
They found out..... PARKING WOULD BE MILES from the Pope's route and Art Museum.
THEY WERE LITERALLY TOLD. EXPECT TO WALK 4 MILES .
I can't help but think..... some SPECIAL Accommodations for Church Buses to Park closer. Somewhere closer and shuttle buses?
The Dioceses released the sad news....
Bus Trip to Papal Mass » Syracuse Diocese
Earlier in the year they were planning for 8 Buses...
In the Scranton Diocese. Buses were cancelled that had so many elderly.
Such a tight city as Philly was a bit at a disadvantage. But any city would have it difficult to handle the 1-2 million people.
It's too bad that they had to cancel. This is what happens when the secret service gets involved. It will be worse next year when the DNC comes.
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People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)