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Old 04-15-2016, 11:22 AM
 
Location: New York City
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We are getting there....
Also, people forget most of NYC is not that cosmopolitan at all. Manhattan just makes up for it with the "glamorization/center of the world stuff"
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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When cosmopolitan culture starts to flow out of CC, I will notice by the removal of the cars parked in the middle of South Broad Street. They currently serve as a provincial sign around our necks.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:09 PM
 
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Of course, New York is a real "stunner" from all approaching angles on the highways, etc. The industrial land between the city and Newark, really sexy. The Robert Moses web of highways disintegrating away and full of traffic? Practically central Paris. You bet Philly looks like crap from many approaches, but that's what cities are: every possible kind of environment reflecting various human needs and sometimes that's not pretty.

The train ride into Paris is often just as lousy looking as heading into Philadelphia. They certainly have as much if not more graffiti, etc. to view.

I was hoping someone would account for Philadelphia's provincial side by invoking the oft-asserted by laughable idea that "our Quaker roots" account for all of that. Never gets old.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:15 PM
 
Location: U.S. Pacific Northwest
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Center City especially around Rittenhouse is becoming more cosmopolitan but overall the city has a long way to go.

I always harp on the unwelcoming highway scenes heading into center city. The Schuylkill coming in from the west is a joke of a sardine-can parking lot. Coming in from the airport? Where to begin. It would need $500 M worth of upgrades just to put a dent in the visual blight and pollution .

Philadelphia just is not laid out to be a cosmopolitan city outside of Center City.
Things have changed since I left! Driving the Sure-kill used to be like parallel-parking at 60 mph.
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Old 04-20-2016, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Also, people forget most of NYC is not that cosmopolitan at all. Manhattan just makes up for it with the "glamorization/center of the world stuff"
What?
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:25 AM
 
Location: New York City
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What?
Bronx, Queens, and Staten Island are not cosmopolitan, Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn are... however because of Manhattans power and influence, people unfamiliar with NYC think it is extremely cosmopolitan, when only 1.5 of the 5 boroughs actually are. Plus New Yorkers have more pride in their city than many Philadelphians which is a shame.
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Old 04-21-2016, 05:54 AM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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Bronx, Queens, and Staten Island are not cosmopolitan, Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn are... however because of Manhattans power and influence, people unfamiliar with NYC think it is extremely cosmopolitan, when only 1.5 of the 5 boroughs actually are. Plus New Yorkers have more pride in their city than many Philadelphians which is a shame.
I know everyone likes to randomly tear down NYC for whatever reason, but you might want to check out what's going on in the Bronx & (especially) Queens lately and revisit this statement.

And there are certainly parts of Queens that are more cosmopolitan than parts of Manhattan (which is also not so easily characterized in broad brush strokes).
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Old 04-21-2016, 06:25 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I know everyone likes to randomly tear down NYC for whatever reason, but you might want to check out what's going on in the Bronx & (especially) Queens lately and revisit this statement.

And there are certainly parts of Queens that are more cosmopolitan than parts of Manhattan (which is also not so easily characterized in broad brush strokes).
I've been to all of them recently, I'm in NYC all the time, never said they weren't interesting, unique, fun areas, (more enjoyable than most of Manhattan) I just wouldn't say cosmopolitan. My definitely of that word may hold more weight than yours.
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Old 04-21-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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I've been to all of them recently, I'm in NYC all the time, never said they weren't interesting, unique, fun areas, (more enjoyable than most of Manhattan) I just wouldn't say cosmopolitan. My definitely of that word may hold more weight than yours.
LOL, do tell
Love to hear about how your experience in East Harlem was a more cosmopolitan outing than your trip to PS1, The Noguchi Museum, The Museum of the Moving Image...
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Old 04-21-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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As per the OP topic: Philly is both. Just like every big city (even the aforementioned Manhattan, if one was to consider that a city.) I'd argue that that mix is something that comes with being a big dynamic city.

I agree with the OP though, and enjoy the particular mix in Philly very much.
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