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Old 04-29-2016, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Classic case of Philadelphia once again taking the easiest and cheapest route available.

The check box should have contained .

1. Location that would generate the most economic activity. Center City

2. Location that adds to the allure of Philadlephia. Center City

3.Location that adds most enjoyment to the fan. Center City


Unfortunately it looks like this is the only check box the city,state ,Phillies were concerned about.

1.Where is the cheapest location.

And thats why Philadelphia is what it is. A Tier below NY,Chi,SF and even Boston.

They dont do things right here. They do things cheap.
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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Classic case of Philadelphia once again taking the easiest and cheapest route available.

The check box should have contained .

1. Location that would generate the most economic activity. Center City

2. Location that adds to the allure of Philadlephia. Center City

3.Location that adds most enjoyment to the fan. Center City


Unfortunately it looks like this is the only check box the city,state ,Phillies were concerned about.

1.Where is the cheapest location.

And thats why Philadelphia is what it is. A Tier below NY,Chi,SF and even Boston.

They dont do things right here. They do things cheap.
Question. Why do you brag so much about Philly on CD's city vs city threads when you, in reality, don't like so much of what happens here?
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:05 AM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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Classic case of Philadelphia once again taking the easiest and cheapest route available.

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And thats why Philadelphia is what it is. A Tier below NY,Chi,SF and even Boston.

They dont do things right here. They do things cheap.
And which of those cities have stadiums right in (or immediately adjacent to) their CBD?
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Old 04-29-2016, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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And which of those cities have stadiums right in (or immediately adjacent to) their CBD?
Actually, all of those cities have at least one stadium in/adjacent to their CBD (Madison Square Garden, United Center, TD Garden, AT&T Park). But I disagree that the current complex is a bad decision. First, it's incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to locate an NFL stadium directly in a city's CBD. The few examples I can think of (Ford Field in Detroit, BoA Stadium in Charlotte) are all in far less dense, car oriented cities. Most other cities have their football stadiums on the outskirts of the CBD by major highways, or in completely different municipalities. None of the cities above do, for example. What we're really talking about here are baseball and basketball/hockey stadia being in Center City/Penn Park, to which I agree would've been great. But the current location is by no means bad, either.
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:01 PM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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I suppose I should have said "ball park"
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:30 PM
 
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Does the stadium complex need to continue to exist as a sports only neighborhood? Is there a reason no significant development has been considered for that area? Xfinity Live opened up with success, and the Casino is soon going to take over the Holiday Inn location. There is a small street grid on the southeastern corner of Packer/Broad, so why not continue that out with some higher density mixed in? One or two parking structures could eliminate the need for many of those surface lots.
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Old 04-29-2016, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Originally Posted by rainrock View Post
Classic case of Philadelphia once again taking the easiest and cheapest route available.

The check box should have contained .

1. Location that would generate the most economic activity. Center City

2. Location that adds to the allure of Philadlephia. Center City

3.Location that adds most enjoyment to the fan. Center City


Unfortunately it looks like this is the only check box the city,state ,Phillies were concerned about.

1.Where is the cheapest location.

And thats why Philadelphia is what it is. A Tier below NY,Chi,SF and even Boston.

They dont do things right here. They do things cheap.
Don't be so certain a Center City location would "add the enjoyment to the fan."
Not everybody thinks Center City is the be-all-to-end-all.


Allure? If the park was in Center City it still wouldn't sell out when they stink and it would still be full when they're good.


And why do you think it would generate the most economic activity? Not every Phillies fan wants to hang in a bar Downtown or go to a pricey restaurant before or after the game.


The current location is perfect for what most people want when going to a game.
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Old 04-29-2016, 06:36 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Originally Posted by rainrock View Post
Classic case of Philadelphia once again taking the easiest and cheapest route available.

The check box should have contained .

1. Location that would generate the most economic activity. Center City

2. Location that adds to the allure of Philadlephia. Center City

3.Location that adds most enjoyment to the fan. Center City


Unfortunately it looks like this is the only check box the city,state ,Phillies were concerned about.

1.Where is the cheapest location.

And thats why Philadelphia is what it is. A Tier below NY,Chi,SF and even Boston.

They dont do things right here. They do things cheap.
The Center City location was going to infringe on Chinatown. Given what happened with the Vine St Expressway, who thought that that was a good idea? Nobody with an ounce of brains.
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Old 04-29-2016, 06:39 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Actually, all of those cities have at least one stadium in/adjacent to their CBD (Madison Square Garden, United Center, TD Garden, AT&T Park). But I disagree that the current complex is a bad decision. First, it's incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to locate an NFL stadium directly in a city's CBD. The few examples I can think of (Ford Field in Detroit, BoA Stadium in Charlotte) are all in far less dense, car oriented cities. Most other cities have their football stadiums on the outskirts of the CBD by major highways, or in completely different municipalities. None of the cities above do, for example. What we're really talking about here are baseball and basketball/hockey stadia being in Center City/Penn Park, to which I agree would've been great. But the current location is by no means bad, either.
FYI, B of A is within walking distance of light rail.
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Dude...., I'm right here
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I've been to Bulls games and United Center is not in down town Chicago. May be Soldier Field but that part of the city is more open space than built up. It's the same with Qualcomm stadium in San Diego. It's next to downtown but also in a open area.

Like you've mentioned, other non-public transport cities have stadium in downtown but they don't have traffic issues and have enough parking for tailgaters.


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Actually, all of those cities have at least one stadium in/adjacent to their CBD (Madison Square Garden, United Center, TD Garden, AT&T Park). But I disagree that the current complex is a bad decision. First, it's incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to locate an NFL stadium directly in a city's CBD. The few examples I can think of (Ford Field in Detroit, BoA Stadium in Charlotte) are all in far less dense, car oriented cities. Most other cities have their football stadiums on the outskirts of the CBD by major highways, or in completely different municipalities. None of the cities above do, for example. What we're really talking about here are baseball and basketball/hockey stadia being in Center City/Penn Park, to which I agree would've been great. But the current location is by no means bad, either.
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