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Old 05-18-2016, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Dude...., I'm right here
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Ivana, of course. Isn't she beautiful?


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Will they sit out the general and not vote? Will they vote for Clinton? Who will Trump pick for VP?

 
Old 05-18-2016, 10:59 AM
 
Location: New York City
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What does exurban mean?
A region laying beyond the suburbs, which Doylestown is not.
 
Old 05-18-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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That article was all essentially anecdotes. I am fairly certain Trump will not do well in the Philly suburbs at all. However, he may pick up a lot of votes in other parts of the state.
 
Old 05-18-2016, 11:05 AM
 
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Ivana, of course. Isn't she beautiful?
His current wife, Melania, is another Ivana clone.

From this latest wife. "He's not Hitler. He wants to help America." Okay...

Here's where we are in this country. We may replace two Havard Law grads(the president and first lady) with a Fordam to Wharton to transfer student(no one who was there at the time remembers him) and his Sarah Palin-esque idiot spouse.
 
Old 05-18-2016, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Phila Pa & NYC
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I won't make any predictions on the election, but many of the Trump supporters that I know like him mostly because of his immigration stance. The one thing I will predict is; if Trump wins and serves two terms, at the end of his terms there will still be 11Mil + undocumented immigrants here and there will be no wall. In fact it is my belief that what Trump is saying about immigration and what he is "really thinking" are two different things.
 
Old 05-18-2016, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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If Trump really wants to win, he should get Bernie to be his running mate.
 
Old 05-18-2016, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The people who haven't voted in 20-30 years? Am I supposed to respect anyone that lazy? So disengaged from a right that people gave their lives to achieve?
It's not necessarily laziness. I know a lot of people who are entirely disengaged from the world, without strong opinions about many things, if anything, who can't hold a basic conversation about world, national, or local affairs, who go out to vote year after year after year, on either side of the aisle.

I don't consider myself lazy. I spend up to an hour a day or more reading various news sites. Went to school for political science. Have engaged in legitimate organizing in my day. Have a number of things I actually care about. This past primary was the first time I've voted in nearly 10 years. I don't see myself voting again soon.

It's a shame there's not more commotion for alternatives to the current two party system, what with somewhere around 50% of the people not currently engaged in voting. And it may or may not have anything to do with Trump, but I don't begrudge anyone for not going out and voting for people they don't necessarily care about or believe in for the meantime.
 
Old 05-18-2016, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Every four years, it's the same song-and-dance from the national media. They repeatedly try to squeeze out this competitive narrative about Pennsylvania in Presidential elections, as we all know the media machine thrives on manufactured suspense and drama.

But to get to the crux of the article--no, Pennsylvania is no more competitive this year than during other election cycles. There's always going to be random anecdotes about voters who are "inspired" by candidates and who haven't voted in a million years, and disaffected party voters who vote against their party's nominee. None of this is novel.

Not to mention, the primary is hardly indicative of the general election. For every disaffected voter and "Reagan Democrat" (which is a dying breed to begin with) that Trump attracts, there is at least one disaffected voter or "Bloomberg Republican" that will absolutely do everything in their power to keep Trump from being elected.

That's not to say Pennsylvania won't be hard-fought, but the demographics, particularly long term, look fairly grim for the GOP, which skews heavily old and white, in Pennsylvania and nationally.

That being said, we all need to brace ourselves for an absurd 5 1/2 month circus that's only just beginning.

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Old 05-18-2016, 10:52 PM
 
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I've mostly seen Bernie Sanders yard signs and bumper stickers in the Western suburbs. Chester county is mostly republican and my neighbor is a GOP elected official.

Personally, I think the Trump fever will wear out because his outbursts are getting less effective at generating news headlines. He will have to dig deeper into his inner Trump to come up with more vile stuff to keep his supporters engaged.
Umm, his opponent will be Hillary & Bill Clinton; does he really have to dig deeper into his inner Trump to come up with more vile stuff to keep his supporters engaged?

The quiet before the storm. Trump is the presumed nominee; Hillary and Bernie are still slogging it out so Trump doesn't need to attack anyone right now. Expect some Hillary and Donald back-n-forth before the November campaign begins in August.

It's gonna be a brutal campaign.

The Clintons vs. Trump. Can it get any better?
 
Old 05-19-2016, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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The Clintons vs. Trump. Can it get any better?
Yes, lots. But too many people want to see a Roman circus rather than legitimate political discourse, so this is what we get.
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