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Old 06-07-2016, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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NYC traffic is really only bad approaching the bridge & tunnel bottlenecks (of which there are many, across all 5 boroughs) at high traffic times. In Manhattan, central park creates additional bottlenecks around 59th street. Around Canal street is bad mainly because one end is the manhattan bridge bottleneck, and the other end is the holland tunnel bottleneck.

I don't think Philly traffic is especially bad as far as major american cities go. The NYC archipelago is perhaps a special case, but Chicago, DC, Atlanta, Boston all seem worse in my experience.
True-Long Island can be but I used to love driving in NYC, especially down the Henry Hudson/West Side Highway from The Bronx-really not that bad.
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Old 06-07-2016, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The problem with Philly and DE and this whole 95 corridor is that there are NO parkways - EVERYTHING is an expressway. There are so many trucks from the various ports up and down between DC-PHL that congest 95-476-202-1, etc. NYC has many roadways devoted to just cars (Northern State, Southern State, Grand Central, Hutch, etc.) and thankfully the NJT is 6 lanes for its relevant length. But we are stuck with 3 lanes with left-lane on-ramps going through a half-vacant ghetto (95 in Chester) or 2-lane highways whose congestion causes more pollution than if it were 3 lanes in the first place (476).
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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The problem with Philly and DE and this whole 95 corridor is that there are NO parkways - EVERYTHING is an expressway. There are so many trucks from the various ports up and down between DC-PHL that congest 95-476-202-1, etc. NYC has many roadways devoted to just cars (Northern State, Southern State, Grand Central, Hutch, etc.) and thankfully the NJT is 6 lanes for its relevant length. But we are stuck with 3 lanes with left-lane on-ramps going through a half-vacant ghetto (95 in Chester) or 2-lane highways whose congestion causes more pollution than if it were 3 lanes in the first place (476).
You do realize that increased traffic capacity just invites more traffic, right? Even if it was possible to widen the Schuylkill Expressway, for example, there's absolutely no assurance that congestion would be alleviated: What’s Up With That: Building Bigger Roads Actually Makes Traffic Worse | WIRED

I just find complaints about Philly traffic so laughable compared to truly insufferable traffic cities on the East Coast like DC, NYC and to a lesser extent, Boston. In fact, despite being a top 10 US urban area, Philly doesn't even appear on the top 10 most congested cities: INRIX 2015 Traffic Scorecard - INRIX, whereas the three former cities do.

If anything, more attention needs to be paid to the condition of current infrastructure, which is far more crucial than increasing capacity. Over time, current traffic conditions will "force the market" to use more public transit or live in more walkable/bikeable areas, which is far more sustainable over the long term.

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Old 06-09-2016, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Levittown
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It is an old city that was planned from the ground up. Old streets, old infrastructure. Haven't you seen the narrow streets with cars partially parked on the sidewalk? Broad St. in South Philly also allows you to park on the median.

As far as bad light coordination, I don't really know as coming from NJ my road rage is so bad that I cut thru side streets to avoid lights. NE sucks on any day, with all that roadwork on 95 from Andalusia to the Ben Franklin Bridge, supposedly they've been working on that for 20+ years. I hate driving through there in the left lane, it's like a tightrope ride, one little slip up and smash into the wall! Roosevelt Blvd makes Queens Blvd look like a breeze. I avoid that road like the plague, but Bustleton Ave is always clogged too and it is hard not to catch lights on that road.
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