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Old 06-10-2016, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Levittown
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So why the senseless stupid rules in the first place?
It's a Quaker state I'm pretty sure, historically. Same reason places like Collingswood and Haddonfield in NJ have "senseless stupid rules" that prohibit alcohol sales.
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Old 06-10-2016, 08:50 PM
 
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So why the senseless stupid rules in the first place?
Start with the 18th amendment to the US Constitution which prohibited legal alcohol sales in the
US for 13 years which was ultimately ended by the 21st amendment. PA state government ended up controlling the distribution of alcohol after that and still does today.

I agree it's dumb to continue with such archaic system. But the PA Liquor Control Board controls it all, including beer sales and bar liquor licenses. The state liquor(wine and spirits shops) stores make a lot income for the state. It's going to be difficult to change for that fact alone.
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Old 06-10-2016, 11:56 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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So why the senseless stupid rules in the first place?
Many states have laws concerning the sale of alcohol. That dates back to prohibition.
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Old 06-11-2016, 12:00 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I wasn't using "town" as a technical term. I live in Levittown, which is a census-designated place and zip code tabulation area in Pennsylvania. My township is Falls, but you don't address an envelope "Falls, PA", or "Middletown, PA" for Levittown. The only time you address an envelope "Bristol, PA" is when referring to Bristol Boro or areas of Bristol Twp outside of Levittown, Croydon or Newportville which are other unincorporated areas within Bristol Twp. From what I understand, Langhorne is the name that is used for Middletown Twp when referring to areas beyond Levittown, and there is also Parkland and Woodbourne, which I'm not sure if you address an envelope with those names or not, I've never seen it. Fairless Hills is also split between Falls and Bristol Townships. There is also Tullytown Borough which also contains some of Levittown, but I've seen Tullytown as an address.

One thing I haven't quite figured out is what constitutes Feasterville and what constitutes Trevose. I know it's mostly Lower Southampton Twp, but Trevose is supposed to be split between LS and Bensalem Twps. All of Bensalem is in Bensalem Twp, but not all of Bensalem Twp is Bensalem. There is Cornwells Heights, Eddington and Andalusia as well and they all use the same zip code. Feasterville appears to be mostly centered around the intersection of Street Rd and Bustleton Ave while Trevose is centered around Street Rd and Trevose Ave which extends from Brownsville Rd, correct? On the Lower Southampton/Bensalem Twp line. But where does Trevose end and Feasterville begin?

In New Jersey, the name of an area is usually the township's name and what constitutes its boundaries and stuff. This is all I am saying. Cherry Hill is a township. Voorhees is a township. And no other names are used in place of those. OK, Evesham includes Marlton which is a historic area that is a few blocks and because that is where their post office is, "Marlton" is often used in place of the township's name, but this is the exception to the rule in NJ.
Ashland is an unincorporated community that's in both Cherry Hill & Voorhees.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Capitol Hill - Washington, DC
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So why the senseless stupid rules in the first place?
You do realize you can Google this, correct?
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:46 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Start with the 18th amendment to the US Constitution which prohibited legal alcohol sales in the
US for 13 years which was ultimately ended by the 21st amendment. PA state government ended up controlling the distribution of alcohol after that and still does today.

I agree it's dumb to continue with such archaic system. But the PA Liquor Control Board controls it all, including beer sales and bar liquor licenses. The state liquor(wine and spirits shops) stores make a lot income for the state. It's going to be difficult to change for that fact alone.
Yep, believe it or not Pennsylvania is the 2nd largest wine purchaser in the World (2nd to Ontario Liquor Control Board), and largest purchaser in The United States.
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Old 06-11-2016, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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In Chester county, there are close to 100 townships. I hope some of these townships share local government services such as fire, police, EMS, etc
I grew up outside the Philly Metro area, so everything was on a much smaller scale. There was a borough not far away that had a volunteer fire company that served the area. The police force would have been the sheriff department, which operates on a county level, as the borough police didn't really go outside of the borough. I'm pretty sure there was a state police building not too far away too. The township building where I went to vote on one occasion (another service I suppose) was basically a large shed.

Obviously the bigger communities get things can change. Our township was fairly rural (about 2,000 people in 22 square miles). It doesn't seem that far away from Philadelphia now that I live here (90 minutes driving in good conditions), but really nobody thought anything at all about Philadelphia except for sports teams.
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Old 06-11-2016, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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So why the senseless stupid rules in the first place?
We can thank Gifford Pinchot for that.

"...Governor Gifford Pinchot stated that the purpose of the Board was to "discourage the purchase of alcoholic beverages by making it as inconvenient and expensive as possible.""

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsy..._Control_Board
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Old 06-11-2016, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Montco PA
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You do realize you can Google this, correct?
I was thinking the same thing.
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Old 06-11-2016, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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In New Jersey, the name of an area is usually the township's name and what constitutes its boundaries and stuff. This is all I am saying. Cherry Hill is a township. Voorhees is a township. And no other names are used in place of those. OK, Evesham includes Marlton which is a historic area that is a few blocks and because that is where their post office is, "Marlton" is often used in place of the township's name, but this is the exception to the rule in NJ.
Everything in Evesham Township is Marlton post office. There's a Medford Village and Medford Lakes Borough, but it's all the same zip code.

I get what you mean about townships being a subdivision of a county. If you live out in the country in, say, Venango County, you are a township. The township is the local government and they provide the services.
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