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Old 07-08-2016, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Penn Station(NYC)'s restrooms have similar problems... well I only know about the womens' rooms.

As I said above the food court area was unused/abandoned for years and it looked a lot worse than now.
Confirmed for men's room
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:28 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Penn Station(NYC)'s restrooms have similar problems... well I only know about the womens' rooms.

As I said above the food court area was unused/abandoned for years and it looked a lot worse than now.
Penn Station is an abomination. If 30th St Station were abandoned for 50 years, it would still look better than Penn Station.
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:18 AM
 
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Penn Station is an abomination. If 30th St Station were abandoned for 50 years, it would still look better than Penn Station.
I assume you know that the real Penn Station was demolished. Now that was a masterpiece in its time.
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Old 07-11-2016, 12:32 PM
 
Location: New York City
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I assume you know that the real Penn Station was demolished. Now that was a masterpiece in its time.
Of course! Way before my time, but one of the biggest architectural losses in our country.
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Old 07-11-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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Of course! Way before my time, but one of the biggest architectural losses in our country.
Amen. It led to real preservation, so it may have been worth it. But what an incredible loss. That's one of the reasons I could never live in a city that's "progressive"....meaning they just keep knocking down to build the newest trendy buildings in place of real buildings. History, quality, workmanship are so important.
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Old 07-11-2016, 03:05 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Amen. It led to real preservation, so it may have been worth it. But what an incredible loss. That's one of the reasons I could never live in a city that's "progressive"....meaning they just keep knocking down to build the newest trendy buildings in place of real buildings. History, quality, workmanship are so important.
And the new Penn Station was a disaster from the start, simply a result of corruption, political and developer payoffs.

Our City Hall almost had the same fate, that would have been right up there with Penn Station.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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And the new Penn Station was a disaster from the start, simply a result of corruption, political and developer payoffs.

Our City Hall almost had the same fate, that would have been right up there with Penn Station.
Yeah, the potential for vertical profits put a ton of pressure on structures like Penn Station. There was a lot of money to be made by claiming all that sky above it. Robert Moses was a plague on NYC, and the nation.

When City Hall was under dispute, I read that people thought it was too ornate. What a bunch of idiots. The concept of ingenuity, architecture, and a lasting sense of place is lost on too many. Look at how many sunbelt cities doze for the new...only to build office park buildings in their downtowns.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:26 AM
 
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Yeah, the potential for vertical profits put a ton of pressure on structures like Penn Station. There was a lot of money to be made by claiming all that sky above it. Robert Moses was a plague on NYC, and the nation.

When City Hall was under dispute, I read that people thought it was too ornate. What a bunch of idiots. The concept of ingenuity, architecture, and a lasting sense of place is lost on too many. Look at how many sunbelt cities doze for the new...only to build office park buildings in their downtowns.
One idiot in question was Edmund Bacon. He had some sound ideas like getting rid of the "chinese wall" with its train tracks feeding Broad St Station. It was all where Penn Center and JFK Blvd are today.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:32 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Yeah, the potential for vertical profits put a ton of pressure on structures like Penn Station. There was a lot of money to be made by claiming all that sky above it. Robert Moses was a plague on NYC, and the nation.

When City Hall was under dispute, I read that people thought it was too ornate. What a bunch of idiots. The concept of ingenuity, architecture, and a lasting sense of place is lost on too many. Look at how many sunbelt cities doze for the new...only to build office park buildings in their downtowns.
Its hard to get locals to appreciate the wonderful architecture you find in only a handful of large US cities, Philadelphia being one of them. I had a few friends realize after they lived in Florida for a year.
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Old 07-17-2016, 12:42 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Penn Station is one of the most disgusting, cramped, overcrowded areas in all of New York. I feel like I need to be sanitized after every trip through there. If you think 30th Street Station is bad, just wait till you take a walk through Penn.
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