Sure hope these kids have cars. Lol

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by FamousBlueRaincoat

I imagine it has to do with me taking the BSL express northbound past the gentrified neighborhoods, and skipping Temple, most of the time. I know a lot of these Northern Liberties and South Philly kids like the subways - and when I go over to Baltimore Area the trolley seems pretty acceptable to a lot of people too.

Yet Broad and Erie and Broad and Olney, despite being in neighborhoods with very few white people, offer bus connections to some of the whitest areas of the city and suburbs, including Chestnut Hill, Mt Airy, Fox Chase, Warminster, Lansdale,Doylestown, and so on. The standing on the corner for a few minutes probably adds another psychological barrier.

It interests me that some people would rather commute on an antique, 50+ year, train fleet( what the regional rail is minus the defective train sets with the added problem of other equipment problems/ delays), than take city division buses that are much, much newer.

[picklewhisky]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

Meh. I've lived in the suburbs a good chunk of my life. "Thoughts and background" have been all over the place, which you discover when you take the trouble to get to know people beyond the surface. I've never met anyone who had a job like me, and have lived next door to factory workers, artists, grocery store clerks, barbers, truck drivers and milkmen (you might not know what those are ... ) in addition to teachers, engineers, and accountants. Your generalizations about the suburbs are just as erroneous and eyeroll-worthy as any generalizations about city life.

Like I said, it was my experience. I did try to get to know them. I participated in neighborhood potlucks and some HOA meetings although I didn't own a place in that community but it didn't seem like a very diverse neighborhood. Good for you that you've have had better experiences. Maybe I got stuck in a ****ty suburb

[picklewhisky]

Originally Posted by kyb01

It interests me that some people would rather commute on an antique, 50+ year, train fleet( what the regional rail is minus the defective train sets with the added problem of other equipment problems/ delays), than take city division buses that are much, much newer.

Personally, my reasons for taking subways over buses is that buses are prone to any traffic hold ups like accidents, detours, etc. Subways aren't totally immune from this but I don't see this happening as often as with buses

Also, I was once taking a bus to work in teh morning and the bus driver randomly decided to stop the bus in between stops on Oregon St near the Home Depot area and decided to spend 15 minutes chatting with a friend by the street, while the bus was stopped in the right lane. I barely made it to work on time but it didn't seem like a lot of the riders on the bus were very bothered by it which lead me to think that this was not an abnormal occurrence

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by picklewhisky

Personally, my reasons for taking subways over buses is that buses are prone to any traffic hold ups like accidents, detours, etc. Subways aren't totally immune from this but I don't see this happening as often as with buses

Also, I was once taking a bus to work in teh morning and the bus driver randomly decided to stop the bus in between stops on Oregon St near the Home Depot area and decided to spend 15 minutes chatting with a friend by the street, while the bus was stopped in the right lane. I barely made it to work on time but it didn't seem like a lot of the riders on the bus were very bothered by it which lead me to think that this was not an abnormal occurrence

Oh, I agree with you. Rail transit is often faster than buses. My post was more about the previous discussion concerning how lots of people will still put up with our current regional rail nightmare than take a bus. The anti- bus bias is pretty strong.

[AbdiKony]

Buses become pretty unreliable far out from the city.