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Old 10-28-2016, 05:28 AM
 
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For instance, I remember when people worked to give job security to gay people. Did anyone feel a need to pass protections for females? No. Blacks & Puerto Ricans? No & no. If the city as a whole was truly liberal, they would have protection laws up the ying yang. I see Philadelphia as a city of great tolerance.
Federal and state laws have protected people against race and sex discrimination for decades (see Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964). The EEOC has recently issued guidance interpreting Title VII as protecting LGBT persons, but it's not formally binding on courts.

That said, Philadelphia does formally outlaw race and sex discrimination (among many other categories), and if you feel discriminated against you have the option of exhausting your administrative remedies with the Philadelphia Commission on Human Relations in addition to or instead of the EEOC and Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission before you can get your right to sue in court.

http://www.phila.gov/HumanRelations/...imination.aspx

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Old 10-28-2016, 10:09 AM
 
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I doubt the religious devoutness of Philadelphia. Based on my observations Philadelphia is a city of gluttonous heathens which is not necessarily bad .
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:15 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Federal and state laws have protected people against race and sex discrimination for decades (see Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964). The EEOC has recently issued guidance interpreting Title VII as protecting LGBT persons, but it's not formally binding on courts.

That said, Philadelphia does formally outlaw race and sex discrimination (among many other categories), and if you feel discriminated against you have the option of exhausting your administrative remedies with the Philadelphia Commission on Human Relations in addition to or instead of the EEOC and Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission before you can get your right to sue in court.

City of Philadelphia: Employment Discrimination
My point was that in Philadelphia a need was seen to protect gay rights because they were not included in federal & state protections at that time.
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Old 10-28-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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I'm speaking over-all. There are very conservative & very liberal enclaves in the city.

Think about the continuum. Would a liberal city elect Frank Rizzo as mayor twice? There were crossburnings well into the 80s. Michael Nutter came out of nowhere to win the Democratic primary because he wanted stop & frisk. All throughout that timeframe, overall, individuals were reasonably tolerant.

Some people see tolerance as a sign of being liberal. I see it as a separate quality, in the case of Philadelphia, as tolerance is a major part of the Quaker religion. I see the tolerance as something in individuals, & if enough people see a need for tolerance about something & it's allowed by the city charter, they go about trying to enact a law.

For instance, I remember when people worked to give job security to gay people. Did anyone feel a need to pass protections for females? No. Blacks & Puerto Ricans? No & no. If the city as a whole was truly liberal, they would have protection laws up the ying yang. I see Philadelphia as a city of great tolerance.

Nutter didn't come out of no where. He was in city counsel for years.
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Old 10-28-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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Nutter didn't come out of no where. He was in city counsel for years.
He was not expected to win the primary. There were a couple of others who were expected to win.
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Old 10-28-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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My point was that in Philadelphia a need was seen to protect gay rights because they were not included in federal & state protections at that time.
You said that if the city as a whole were truly liberal they would have protection laws up the ying yang, and I'm telling you they do. Most larger cities have anti-discrimination ordinances that mirror and supplement federal and state provisions.

Philly also has one of the most stringent "ban the box" ordinances, which prevents all employers, regardless of size, from even checking applicants' criminal background histories until they give conditional offers of hire.
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Old 10-28-2016, 06:51 PM
 
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He was not expected to win the primary. There were a couple of others who were expected to win.
His opponents were Bob Brady , Chakha Fattah and Tom Knox in 2007.
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Old 10-28-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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His opponents were Bob Brady , Chakha Fattah and Tom Knox in 2007.
I remember watching the debate. There were more candidates than that. I couldn't tell you who all ran.
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Old 10-30-2016, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Nutter didn't come out of no where. He was in city counsel for years.
*council ... Anyway, I'd love to have Nutter back as opposed to this bum Kenney.
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Old 10-31-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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*council ... Anyway, I'd love to have Nutter back as opposed to this bum Kenney.
Yep, thanks, for correctly my typo.

This is getting to be off topic. But, agreed; I miss Nutter. And he had a lot to deal with when he came in because it was at the start of the Great Recession. Kenny is pretty meh, has no charisma and I have no idea what kind of vision he has, if any, for the city.
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