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Old 05-31-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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He he he. The difference is the same. Don't take the internet to serious.

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It really bugs me when people say they could care less, when they mean they couldn't lol.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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He he he. The difference is the same. Don't take the internet to serious.
I take nothing two serious lol
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Old 05-31-2017, 12:18 PM
 
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He he he. The difference is the same. Don't take the internet to serious.

*seriously




Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Old 05-31-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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He he he. The difference is the same. Don't take the internet to serious.
Agreed. The same is also different.
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Old 05-31-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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P.h.o.e.n.i.x.
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Old 05-31-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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The only consolation is that Phoenix growth is mainly due to the growth of the city limits. Phila just needs to maintain a positive population growth as it had previously been losing residents for decades.

Unfortunately, the city has a long way to go going by the number of vacant lots or derelict buildings that are a reminder of it's glory days. I also doubt if the city can accommodate 2 million residents like in the 50's.

Philly slips from fifth to sixth, as Phoenix rises

Personally, I wouldn't live in Phoenix nor it's suburbs. It's hot, dry and bare (I've only been to Phoenix, the city once, but I spent a week in Sedona and Flagstaff). But neither would I live in the Philadelphia city limits due to congestion and high COL.
Keep in mind that these are just population estimates. The official census count isn't until 2020. 10 years ago Phoenix population estimates had it higher than Philly but when the official 2010 numbers were released, Philly had a higher population. Also take into account that sun belt cities tend to overrate their population estimate counts like Atlanta, Dallas, etc.

Even if Pheonix officially surpasses Philly in population, it doesn't really mean much. The Philly MSA/CSA is over 7 million people and has already surpassed the population of the entire state of Arizona. Also the Philly MSA and CSA will continue to grow and add more counties as it did with Berks, Kent, Cape May county over the years. Philly and New York will eventually become one CSA. It's only a matter of time that will happen.
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Keep in mind that these are just population estimates. The official census count isn't until 2020. 10 years ago Phoenix population estimates had it higher than Philly but when the official 2010 numbers were released, Philly had a higher population. Also take into account that sun belt cities tend to overrate their population estimate counts like Atlanta, Dallas, etc.

Even if Pheonix officially surpasses Philly in population, it doesn't really mean much. The Philly MSA/CSA is over 7 million people and has already surpassed the population of the entire state of Arizona. Also the Philly MSA and CSA will continue to grow and add more counties as it did with Berks, Kent, Cape May county over the years. Philly and New York will eventually become one CSA. It's only a matter of time that will happen.
I hope NYC and PHL stay seperate. Would Lancaster County ever get absorbed into the Philadelphia area?
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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I hope NYC and PHL stay seperate. Would Lancaster County ever get absorbed into the Philadelphia area?
Lancaster is about an hour away from Philly on a good non traffic day.

Bucks, Montgomery and Delaware counties make more sense.

PHL will be a more attractive city cause people are moving out of NYC in droves. It is not a livable place to be at anymore, the rent is too high and it is prone to terrorism.

Philadelphia is a big city but it has small town feel which confuses New Yorkers.
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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There is NO gain in a Philly into A NYC CSA Fe Philly especially. Even if a minimal commuting pattern is seen? Traffic will only get worst to do much to increase it. By the time a combined Philly NYC region under a CSA occurs? The WHOLE East Coast from Boston to DC first and could extend further south? Will be a MEGOPOLIS in full effect too.

Its of value for close metros as Baltimore/DC but far less with the others. Metros are still the main count of a cities stature by population. City-proper's less so since some city-proper's are much smaller vs its metro.

Some cities have areas especially in their fringes. That are more like a suburb then some oldest original suburbs even. Some cities have suburbs that virtually maintained and continued the major cities street-grid and addresses. I won't go into which cities fit what? But most know their city if it's them.

The main thing keeping some cities suburbs, from joining the city today? Is Public schools. Many metros now have higher taxes in their suburbs today for the same homes. That was rarely the case 30 years ago. Politics and city SERVICES (or lack of some like street-cleaning sweepers) is another drawback some cities have to suggest absorbing a next door suburb.
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