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Old 08-14-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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If things aren't going well in Center City it bleeds over to the rest of the city.

I swear that fast Eddie put in an appearance at every community pool in the city, every year. If he didn't make it to every pool, it sure seemed like it. I saw the raw news footage every year. It would be edited into a montage & the pool/pools of the day would be read off. They also showed him talking to the neighbors. He acknowledged the people & the neighborhoods. What more did you want? The city was on the brink of bankruptcy when he came into office. There wasn't money to be be spread to every neighborhood.
You are miles away from Phila and you still know more about what happened in this city, wrt crucial periods, during the last 50 years than someone who has probably never left the Philly area and seems to live in Plymouth Meeting.

I always appreciate how much detail you remember! Much more than me and we are age peers.
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Old 08-14-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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Buzz Bissinger's "A Prayer for the City" is a good read for the 90s view of Philadelphia, especially as it relates to Rendell and his first term as mayor. Yes, he did a lot for CC, but as other posters have pointed out, the image of him as glam obsessed is largely inaccurate. For example, there's a great stretch in the book that covers how Rendell bent over backwards trying to save the Navy Yard, because he understood how much those jobs meant both to South Philly and the River Wards.

It's been a while since I read the book so the exact details are a little fuzzy, but there are other anecdotes like that up and down it. Rendell wasn't perfect, but he legitimately did care for the city as a whole. If you don't feel that, it's probably because with limited resources, he had to focus his efforts on where they would do the most good.
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Old 08-14-2018, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Straddling two worlds
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Buzz Bissinger's "A Prayer for the City" is a good read for the 90s view of Philadelphia, especially as it relates to Rendell and his first term as mayor. Yes, he did a lot for CC, but as other posters have pointed out, the image of him as glam obsessed is largely inaccurate. For example, there's a great stretch in the book that covers how Rendell bent over backwards trying to save the Navy Yard, because he understood how much those jobs meant both to South Philly and the River Wards.

It's been a while since I read the book so the exact details are a little fuzzy, but there are other anecdotes like that up and down it. Rendell wasn't perfect, but he legitimately did care for the city as a whole. If you don't feel that, it's probably because with limited resources, he had to focus his efforts on where they would do the most good.
Just so. And therein lies the rub.
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Old 08-14-2018, 05:16 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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You are miles away from Phila and you still know more about what happened in this city, wrt crucial periods, during the last 50 years than someone who has probably never left the Philly area and seems to live in Plymouth Meeting.

I always appreciate how much detail you remember! Much more than me and we are age peers.
If I hadn't amassed medical debt that I'm still paying off because of cancer surgery, I would either be in Philadelphia or Delaware right now.

I clearly remember the pool footage coming in every year. We had a good time with it. Ed got in the pools with the kids & you couldn't tell who was having the better time. He shook hands & talked with the neighborhood residents & parents. I think that there was about a week of pool days.

Ed Rendell went head to head with the trash collectors & their union, trying to get the budget under control. Remember, at that time garbage was collected separately, by a group of pig farmers in Deptford. The pig farmers collected the garbage in Philadelphia for at least one hundred years.
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Old 08-14-2018, 05:31 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Buzz Bissinger's "A Prayer for the City" is a good read for the 90s view of Philadelphia, especially as it relates to Rendell and his first term as mayor. Yes, he did a lot for CC, but as other posters have pointed out, the image of him as glam obsessed is largely inaccurate. For example, there's a great stretch in the book that covers how Rendell bent over backwards trying to save the Navy Yard, because he understood how much those jobs meant both to South Philly and the River Wards.

It's been a while since I read the book so the exact details are a little fuzzy, but there are other anecdotes like that up and down it. Rendell wasn't perfect, but he legitimately did care for the city as a whole. If you don't feel that, it's probably because with limited resources, he had to focus his efforts on where they would do the most good.
Money was dangerously tight, especially in his first term. The pool visits only cost gas money, but many regular people got face time & a handshake from the mayor. He went in the pool with the kids & made the mayor a real live human being to them.
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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big deal. publicity stunt.
And apparently what he did for center city never spilled over into the surrounding neighborhoods.


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If things aren't going well in Center City it bleeds over to the rest of the city.

I swear that fast Eddie put in an appearance at every community pool in the city, every year. If he didn't make it to every pool, it sure seemed like it. I saw the raw news footage every year. It would be edited into a montage & the pool/pools of the day would be read off. They also showed him talking to the neighbors. He acknowledged the people & the neighborhoods. What more did you want? The city was on the brink of bankruptcy when he came into office. There wasn't money to be be spread to every neighborhood.
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:23 AM
 
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big deal. publicity stunt.
And apparently what he did for center city never spilled over into the surrounding neighborhoods.
Okay, you hate him.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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big deal. publicity stunt.
And apparently what he did for center city never spilled over into the surrounding neighborhoods.
Want to share your better idea?
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:07 AM
 
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And apparently what he did for center city never spilled over into the surrounding neighborhoods.
Citation needed.
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Old 08-15-2018, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Buzz Bissinger's "A Prayer for the City" is a good read for the 90s view of Philadelphia, especially as it relates to Rendell and his first term as mayor. Yes, he did a lot for CC, but as other posters have pointed out, the image of him as glam obsessed is largely inaccurate. For example, there's a great stretch in the book that covers how Rendell bent over backwards trying to save the Navy Yard, because he understood how much those jobs meant both to South Philly and the River Wards.

It's been a while since I read the book so the exact details are a little fuzzy, but there are other anecdotes like that up and down it. Rendell wasn't perfect, but he legitimately did care for the city as a whole. If you don't feel that, it's probably because with limited resources, he had to focus his efforts on where they would do the most good.
That is a great book-I also remember a chapter where he met with neighbors in Kensington after some tense racial violence between whites and Puerto Ricans. Center City was his biggest achievement but he definitely cared for the city as a whole. He actually was a basketball coach for my brothers team (his son also played). John Street was his predecessor and some might say was the opposite in focusing on Center City versus neighborhoods.
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