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Old 09-07-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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That is not good advice. Do not engage random shirtless people, none the less antagonize them further..

PAFA is in a bit of a deadzone because of the very large convention center across the street. Traffic is crazy because of 676. Not the easiest spot to get to. Sounds like a bad experience though, and not reflective of something that would happen everyday. I assume she walked down Broad st. today, she should try walking down 15th to the back of pafa. It's more pedestrian friendly. General rule if you see someone ahead you don't want to come near and you really can't ignore them, then cross the street and if you can't do that than turn around if it is that big of a deal.
During the day it is not a dead zone at all. Plenty of people going back and forth to Hahnemann and the rest of Drexel med along and around there on Broad. Plus just random pedestrians.
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Old 09-08-2018, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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There is nothing wrong with getting self defense, and situational awareness training. Also, there is the option of legal, concealed carry of a firearm if the student is 21 or older. At the minimum, get training, carry pepper spray, etc. Have non lethal options in which to defend yourself at the bare minimum.
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Old 09-08-2018, 02:35 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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There is nothing wrong with getting self defense, and situational awareness training. Also, there is the option of legal, concealed carry of a firearm if the student is 21 or older. At the minimum, get training, carry pepper spray, etc. Have non lethal options in which to defend yourself at the bare minimum.
Did you not read the OP? She's 18.

The safest thing is to ignore a creep & just keep moving. Been there, done that.
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:53 AM
 
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There is nothing wrong with getting self defense, and situational awareness training. Also, there is the option of legal, concealed carry of a firearm if the student is 21 or older. At the minimum, get training, carry pepper spray, etc. Have non lethal options in which to defend yourself at the bare minimum.
This is extreme for where she's likely to be.

The immediate area around PAFA is fine. I know what I'm talking about. I walk around there almost daily. Days. Nights.

She's 18.
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Old 09-09-2018, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Did you not read the OP? She's 18.

The safest thing is to ignore a creep & just keep moving. Been there, done that.
So, she will never turn 21? I'm a creep for recommending she get training to protect herself?
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:52 AM
 
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So, she will never turn 21? I'm a creep for recommending she get training to protect herself?
Not the training; I've done training because I'm short.

But, the idea that a gun is necessary where she is likely to go seems extreme me.
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Not the training; I've done training because I'm short.

But, the idea that a gun is necessary where she is likely to go seems extreme me.
I understand what you are saying. Nothing is "necessary" anywhere. Neither is my home owner's insurance policy, but I keep paying the premiums.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:07 AM
 
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I understand what you are saying. Nothing is "necessary" anywhere. Neither is my home owner's insurance policy, but I keep paying the premiums.
We've had this discussion before. I don't agree with you. At least with the idea that this young woman should pack in Center City.
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Old 09-09-2018, 01:47 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I understand what you are saying. Nothing is "necessary" anywhere. Neither is my home owner's insurance policy, but I keep paying the premiums.
Art students usually are carting lots of stuff. They drag the tools etc. back & forth between home & classes. You made an inappropriate suggestion. By insisting on it, you're turning inappropriate into just plain bad. Your suggestion is more likely to get her hurt or killed. I was a female 18 year old art student. The safest thing is to dodge the creeps on the street. I had one incident on PATCO, ever. All l needed to do was forget about decorum. Pulling a gun was not the way to go. If she's got her hands full with paints, a canvas, etc.,what's she supposed to do? Hand the stuff to the creep so she can pull out a gun?

If you avoid the creep, the problem is solved.
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Old 09-09-2018, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Straddling two worlds
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What about a buddy system? Especially if she’s walking after class in the dark when the time changes.
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