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Old 09-26-2018, 03:58 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Big agree. For some reason, they see anything wider than a traditional "city" street as license to develop it as a large, parking lot-fronted, retail mecca. I'm reminded of my least favorite of these, Baltimore Pike in the Clifton Heights and Springfield areas. Just ugly.
But by then, you've left the city.

It's all suburban development around Baltimore Pike.

Now, if Baltimore Avenue looked like that, we'd have a problem.

But there is a huge strip mall on Baltimore Avenue between 56th and 58th.

Part of the problem stems from a failure of imagination on the part not of the city, but of developers, who bought the suburban notion that the car should have pride of place when it came to accessing retail stores. You will find some suburban shopping districts, such as Chestnut Hill, Collingswood, or Ardmore, don't lack for off-street parking, but it's all located in lots behind the street-facing stores. Those "Main Street"-style suburban shopping centers kinda-sorta represent the developers figuring out that people like this sort of thing. "Kinda-sorta" because the Main Street in these becomes an isolated island surrounded by a parking lot, much like a shopping mall.

Of course, if they actually tried to put the stores on the nearby main street, it would be a monumental fail, for the actual main street is a four- to six-lane highway with wide travel lanes and no curbside parking.
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Old 09-26-2018, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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or Cottman west of the boulevard. That entire area is just one big strip mall
Which may explain the disdain for the Northeast among those living outside it, for that area is Northeast Philadelphia's "downtown." I for one would prefer to shop in an actual one.
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Old 09-26-2018, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I think the most progress has been made on Girard near Brewerytown but even Girard near Fishtown is pretty "meh." It seems like part of the problem has been the City's failure to fight quasi suburban development (strip malls, fast food with drive throughs etc.) in otherwise urban neighborhoods. These places always serve to attract the homeless and always look bleak in urban settings.

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Big agree. For some reason, they see anything wider than a traditional "city" street as license to develop it as a large, parking lot-fronted, retail mecca. I'm reminded of my least favorite of these, Baltimore Pike in the Clifton Heights and Springfield areas. Just ugly.

@Sandy, or anyone else who may know - an example by me is Front & Girard. There is a 7-eleven, Dollar Tree, strip club and McD's with a parking lot and drive-thru, all within 500 feet of the Front St. station. What would it take to remove them as tenants and redevelop their lots? These lots scream for high-density development.

This past Saturday, I was part of a group of local civic-minded people who hosted Clarke, Perri, and a host of other city officials on a walking tour of the area and Front & Girard was one of the stops. They got to see the filth and trash firsthand. Will anything come of it? Not sure yet. But it was good for them to see it and to hear our concerns about it.
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: North Jackson
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@Sandy, or anyone else who may know - an example by me is Front & Girard. There is a 7-eleven, Dollar Tree, strip club and McD's with a parking lot and drive-thru, all within 500 feet of the Front St. station. What would it take to remove them as tenants and redevelop their lots? These lots scream for high-density development.
Remove them as tenants? There's almost nothing you can do. If the zoning in place supported those types of businesses when they opened up, then there's not much you can do unless they are breaking the law in some way.
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Old 09-26-2018, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Remove them as tenants? There's almost nothing you can do. If the zoning in place supported those types of businesses when they opened up, then there's not much you can do unless they are breaking the law in some way.
The 7-Eleven and the Mickey D's probably aren't tenants, as they occupy freestanding structures on their lots. The McD's is of the 1970s design.

The only way to evict an owner of a property is to buy it.
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:14 PM
 
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Which may explain the disdain for the Northeast among those living outside it, for that area is Northeast Philadelphia's "downtown." I for one would prefer to shop in an actual one.
I have to go to Roosevelt mall for clothes shopping as s big and tall man because Torres is gone from broad and philly. The dxl store on 24th and Oregon has nothing to small
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