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Old 09-17-2018, 08:39 AM
 
Location: New York City
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You weren't alive when cops regularly raided gay establishments because we were criminals. So although I understand your POV pretty much be careful what you wish for.
I know there is a dark side to cops and corruption too, but I try not to let past atrocities hinder my outlook on how the city should go forward.

And I am not advocating for a police state, but more presence and faster response time to issues around the city, especially in high traffic areas, like along Broad St for example.

The police presence in cities like NYC and LA have been very positive.
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Old 09-17-2018, 09:47 AM
 
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You weren't alive when cops regularly raided gay establishments because we were criminals. So although I understand your POV pretty much be careful what you wish for.
Respect that was 60 years ago. Thats a LONG time ago.


Some cities are more violent than others. Not fair to say Chicago is the gun capital of the nation but rather there is a select top ten bad cities. Just a wondering what motivates the population to accept this where they live
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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I know there is a dark side to cops and corruption too, but I try not to let past atrocities hinder my outlook on how the city should go forward.

And I am not advocating for a police state, but more presence and faster response time to issues around the city, especially in high traffic areas, like along Broad St for example.

The police presence in cities like NYC and LA have been very positive.
There's a reason why the Rizzo statue generated so much recent controversy and it wasn't just about him and black people.

Anyhow I'll leave it there.....
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:41 AM
 
Location: New York City
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There's a reason why the Rizzo statue generated so much recent controversy and it wasn't just about him and black people.

Anyhow I'll leave it there.....
90% of the people protesting the statue have no clue what or why they are protesting.
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey area
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90% of the people protesting the statue have no clue what or why they are protesting.
sorry I totally disagree, as an African American man born and raised here my husband know exactly why he hate walking past that statues and we've taught our my sons also. lol so not sure about your experience but I can tell you the African american community from West philly knows full well why they hate Rizzo or let's say his legacy.

Anyhoo, that's derailing op's post.

Op, I love Philadelphia also. I think it's a wonderful place to live, like anywhere else it has it's problems. I'd like to see us work on our deep poverty issue but overall it's a really great city.
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: New York City
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sorry I totally disagree, as an African American man born and raised here my husband know exactly why he hate walking past that statues and we've taught our my sons also. lol so not sure about your experience but I can tell you the African american community from West philly knows full well why they hate Rizzo or let's say his legacy.

Anyhoo, that's derailing op's post.

Op, I love Philadelphia also. I think it's a wonderful place to live, like anywhere else it has it's problems. I'd like to see us work on our deep poverty issue but overall it's a really great city.
Well the people I have seen standing around protesting the statue do not seem all that informed. Again, I am positive that 90% of the actual protesters would not even know what they are protesting.

Knowing the history/ legacy and experiences of Rizzo and that era are totally different from what I am talking about. I never doubted and do not doubt that many longtime residents do not like him and they can actually share intelligent experiences and stories about it. The people standing by the statue shouting and throwing things, not so much...

And my response isn't meant to offend you, I just giving another perspective.
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:22 PM
 
Location: NYC & Media PA
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He has many officers afraid to do their jobs out of fear of getting prosecuted for things due to public pressure

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Actually he isn't problem. The PPD is. Look at how our idiot police commissioner handled the Starbucks situation. Great example of how basically incompetent they are.

Krasner has not been as soft on crime as I thought he would be.
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Straddling two worlds
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He has many officers afraid to do their jobs out of fear of getting prosecuted for things due to public pressure
Baloney. What "things?" If they're really doing their jobs and not breaking the law (which applies to EVERYONE), they should have nothing to fear.
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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He has many officers afraid to do their jobs out of fear of getting prosecuted for things due to public pressure
Is that still true? That was a stated fear before the DA election contest.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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There's a reason why the Rizzo statue generated so much recent controversy and it wasn't just about him and black people.

Anyhow I'll leave it there.....
Why is it only a recent controversy given the length of time its been there?
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