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Old 01-14-2019, 07:20 AM
 
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Seems clear right now that he'll stay and Nick will get traded. So, yes, the pressure will be enormous.
They don't have to. Everyone is looking at Foles's $20m mutual option for next year saying they can't afford that for a backup, but Wentz is only making $6m (still on his rookie contract), and paying $26m total for the top 2 QBs on a team really isn't unreasonable, so they could in theory afford to bring Foles back next year. The choice is more up to him (since it's a mutual option). If he wants to leave to try to be a starter on a bad team again (which he did once and failed), then he'll get the $20m from someone else and start. But he's 29, he's done it once, and he is comfortable here in this system and achieved the highest goal you can achieve (Super Bowl MVP) as a backup here. I don't think it's necessarily certain that he would choose to leave again, either. Foles is different than most other athletes I've seen. He's much more humble and grounded than other athletes or stars in whatever field. If anyone would choose not to seek glory elsewhere, it would be him.
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:24 AM
 
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They don't have to. Everyone is looking at Foles's $20m mutual option for next year saying they can't afford that for a backup, but Wentz is only making $6m (still on his rookie contract), and paying $26m total for the top 2 QBs on a team really isn't unreasonable, so they could in theory afford to bring Foles back next year. The choice is more up to him (since it's a mutual option). If he wants to leave to try to be a starter on a bad team again (which he did once and failed), then he'll get the $20m from someone else and start. But he's 29, he's done it once, and he is comfortable here in this system and achieved the highest goal you can achieve (Super Bowl MVP) as a backup here. I don't think it's necessarily certain that he would choose to leave again, either. Foles is different than most other athletes I've seen. He's much more humble and grounded than other athletes or stars in whatever field. If anyone would choose not to seek glory elsewhere, it would be him.
Totally agree with all of this.
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:24 AM
 
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They don't have to. Everyone is looking at Foles's $20m mutual option for next year saying they can't afford that for a backup, but Wentz is only making $6m (still on his rookie contract), and paying $26m total for the top 2 QBs on a team really isn't unreasonable, so they could in theory afford to bring Foles back next year. The choice is more up to him (since it's a mutual option). If he wants to leave to try to be a starter on a bad team again (which he did once and failed), then he'll get the $20m from someone else and start. But he's 29, he's done it once, and he is comfortable here in this system and achieved the highest goal you can achieve (Super Bowl MVP) as a backup here. I don't think it's necessarily certain that he would choose to leave again, either. Foles is different than most other athletes I've seen. He's much more humble and grounded than other athletes or stars in whatever field. If anyone would choose not to seek glory elsewhere, it would be him.

Absolutely agree with this. I mean, if he hadn't made it in football, he was going to be a pastor at his church. He's a good egg. We'll see what happens.


Of course I'm upset about the outcome last night, but honestly, I'm still proud of our birds. It just wasn't in the cards this year.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Pa
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They don't have to. Everyone is looking at Foles's $20m mutual option for next year saying they can't afford that for a backup, but Wentz is only making $6m (still on his rookie contract), and paying $26m total for the top 2 QBs on a team really isn't unreasonable, so they could in theory afford to bring Foles back next year. The choice is more up to him (since it's a mutual option). If he wants to leave to try to be a starter on a bad team again (which he did once and failed), then he'll get the $20m from someone else and start. But he's 29, he's done it once, and he is comfortable here in this system and achieved the highest goal you can achieve (Super Bowl MVP) as a backup here. I don't think it's necessarily certain that he would choose to leave again, either. Foles is different than most other athletes I've seen. He's much more humble and grounded than other athletes or stars in whatever field. If anyone would choose not to seek glory elsewhere, it would be him.
The issue with this approach is the long term deal we'll need to sign Wentz to (assuming the team execs and coaches definitively determine we're going forward with Wentz). If we wait another year to sign Wentz to a 8 or 10 year contract, the top QBs will be making around 10M more than they are today. So basically we would take a huge monetary hit and cap issues for the next decade unless we sign Wentz ASAP.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Chadds Ford
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Foles can take a hit and has the poise of a veteran. Wentz is the opposite. Both are above-average talents, but nothing legendary.

Unpopular answer: neither are a reliable long-term option for building a franchise around. During the off-season, see if Wentz has trade-value. If Wentz has trade value, trade him and let Foles serve as a stop-gap for a few years. If Wentz doesn't have trade-value, let Foles walk and give Wentz a couple years to make his case. Either way, draft a franchise QB when the right opportunity comes along.
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:22 AM
 
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The issue with this approach is the long term deal we'll need to sign Wentz to (assuming the team execs and coaches definitively determine we're going forward with Wentz). If we wait another year to sign Wentz to a 8 or 10 year contract, the top QBs will be making around 10M more than they are today. So basically we would take a huge monetary hit and cap issues for the next decade unless we sign Wentz ASAP.
I don't think the Eagles are going to be in any rush to sign Wentz to long term guaranteed money at this point. Except for his NFL rookie year (and even then, he cracked a rib in camp), he's finished 3 of the last 4 seasons with serious injuries (2015 - wrist, 2017 - knee, 2018 - back) going back to his senior year in college. I presume that they are going to want to see him play a full year next year before committing any sort of huge amount of guaranteed money to him. It's too big of a risk right now. Wentz has looked like a legit pro-bowl franchise QB when he's been on the field, but the "on the field" part is definitely a risk now.
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:34 AM
 
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They don't have to. Everyone is looking at Foles's $20m mutual option for next year saying they can't afford that for a backup, but Wentz is only making $6m (still on his rookie contract), and paying $26m total for the top 2 QBs on a team really isn't unreasonable, so they could in theory afford to bring Foles back next year. The choice is more up to him (since it's a mutual option). If he wants to leave to try to be a starter on a bad team again (which he did once and failed), then he'll get the $20m from someone else and start. But he's 29, he's done it once, and he is comfortable here in this system and achieved the highest goal you can achieve (Super Bowl MVP) as a backup here. I don't think it's necessarily certain that he would choose to leave again, either. Foles is different than most other athletes I've seen. He's much more humble and grounded than other athletes or stars in whatever field. If anyone would choose not to seek glory elsewhere, it would be him.
Foles strikes me as the kind of person who could become beloved here if he hasn't become that already. What great guy!
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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Absolutely agree with this. I mean, if he hadn't made it in football, he was going to be a pastor at his church. He's a good egg. We'll see what happens.


Of course I'm upset about the outcome last night, but honestly, I'm still proud of our birds. It just wasn't in the cards this year.
The fact that they got into the playoffs when folks(me!) were writing them off for this year.
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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Absolutely agree with this. I mean, if he hadn't made it in football, he was going to be a pastor at his church. He's a good egg. We'll see what happens.


Of course I'm upset about the outcome last night, but honestly, I'm still proud of our birds. It just wasn't in the cards this year.
Repeating as NFL champs is one of the hardest things to do in all of sports, for a lot of reasons, especially after your first SB win. They should be back in contention next year.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:53 PM
 
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What if Wentz is perpetually injury prone like he was through college, and his entire time with the Eagles? Nate Sudfeld?
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