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Old 10-19-2018, 11:05 AM
 
Location: New York City
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^^^^ Thank you so much for your honest answer. We are coming from Toronto, Canada which is arguably one of the most multicultural cities in the world. My children attend a racially diverse school now and have friends who are white, hispanic, black, asian, East Indian and Muslim. We are white and are concerned with the kids attending a school that is all white. Some sort of diversity is definitely preferred and if it can't be found in the area we choose, we want to be sure there is at least an acceptance and understanding of diversity and multiculturalism. We have no interest in landing in a township that has racist under currents!
With all that being said, the Media area is still a wonderful area and has historically been a liberal and accepting area regardless or ones race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. And the community continues to diversify as Media borough grows.

 
Old 10-19-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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^^^^ Thank you so much for your honest answer. We are coming from Toronto, Canada which is arguably one of the most multicultural cities in the world. My children attend a racially diverse school now and have friends who are white, hispanic, black, asian, East Indian and Muslim. We are white and are concerned with the kids attending a school that is all white. Some sort of diversity is definitely preferred and if it can't be found in the area we choose, we want to be sure there is at least an acceptance and understanding of diversity and multiculturalism. We have no interest in landing in a township that has racist under currents!
If diversity is a critical issue and you are coming from living in the city in Toronto and want that same sort of diversity, you're going to find it ... in the city. I don't know anything about Toronto's suburbs, but I'm guessing they also don't have the same sort of diversity that you are accustomed to in the city. Just a thought.

As far as other suburban locations, Newtown and Bucks County check pretty much every one of your boxes except, again, being 80% white. There's no perceptible racial tension here, though, that's I've felt.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 11:37 AM
 
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people throw around Mt. Airy a lot even when it doesn't fit but man, does the OPs priorities ever scream "Mt. Airy!".

OP, you can get a really nice house well under your budget there. You might consider doing that which may allow you to afford a moderately priced private school.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 01:52 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I am wary of the New Jersey real estate market because of the recent tax reform. I believe that once people do their tax returns in a few months, they'll realize how much the game has changed due to the state-and-local-tax (SALT) limits. If this happens, NJ residents near Philadelphia will flock to PA.

Or maybe people will simply pay whatever number TurboTax spits-out without looking into why it is what it is.

A $650k house in Haddonfield has about $15k/yr in taxes. A $650k house on the Main Line will usually be about (or even under) $10k/yr in taxes. A $650k house in Media/Swarthmore, for reference, would be over $15k/yr in taxes.

Maybe I'm wrong and the tax-rates are already priced-in. All I know is that there haven't *yet* been any major price-corrections from the SALT limits going into effect.
What you have do concerning South Jersey towns is work the numbers. It works for some & doesn't work for others.

The Philadelphia wage tax is deductible towards your NJ income tax.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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In a similar scenario (except without needing to commute as of now), we chose Lower Merion for the schools, beautiful stone houses, and proximity to Center City.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 03:36 PM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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people throw around Mt. Airy a lot even when it doesn't fit but man, does the OPs priorities ever scream "Mt. Airy!".

OP, you can get a really nice house well under your budget there. You might consider doing that which may allow you to afford a moderately priced private school.
Mt. Airy has the multicultural mindset, but it’s mostly just black and white. Chestnut Hill is actually getting fairly diverse these days (but again, private schools).
 
Old 10-22-2018, 12:26 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Just to talk about the Delco "stigma" for another minute, I have never thought of it as a racial thing. I have tons of family from Clifton and Springfield. They are exactly what you think of when you think "Delco" -- tough, tattoed, blue-collar kids. They laugh about it themselves...a couple of them even got tattoos of the Clifton zipcode. A few months ago there was a cute video about Delco and that's pretty much what it showed. I think Media was about as "upscale" as it got. I don't know how to do links but it's on youtube -- "It's Going Down (in Delco)".

OP, hope we haven't scared you off. I still stick with the recommendation of the Main Line (towns) but Media is nice too. I don't agree with the Newtown/Bucks suggestion because it's not as convenient to the city. But the Philly area in general is pretty racially segmented. The only place I think of when people want racial diversity is West Mount Airy, but then you've got the issue of Philadelphia schools, which is a whole different story that has plenty of threads on the forum.
 
Old 10-22-2018, 02:38 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Just to talk about the Delco "stigma" for another minute, I have never thought of it as a racial thing. I have tons of family from Clifton and Springfield. They are exactly what you think of when you think "Delco" -- tough, tattoed, blue-collar kids. They laugh about it themselves...a couple of them even got tattoos of the Clifton zipcode. A few months ago there was a cute video about Delco and that's pretty much what it showed. I think Media was about as "upscale" as it got. I don't know how to do links but it's on youtube -- "It's Going Down (in Delco)".

OP, hope we haven't scared you off. I still stick with the recommendation of the Main Line (towns) but Media is nice too. I don't agree with the Newtown/Bucks suggestion because it's not as convenient to the city. But the Philly area in general is pretty racially segmented. The only place I think of when people want racial diversity is West Mount Airy, but then you've got the issue of Philadelphia schools, which is a whole different story that has plenty of threads on the forum.
I get confused with the whole Delco thing... Is it just a section of the county? Because Radnor is a part of Delco, so is Concord and Newtown Square and they dont get lumped into that "Delco vibe"

I only considered Delco to be the small boroughs near the river (Clifton, Sharon Hill, Yeadon, etc.)

I dont really consider Springfield to be Blue Collar, pretty standard suburb.
 
Old 10-25-2018, 11:36 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I get confused with the whole Delco thing... Is it just a section of the county? Because Radnor is a part of Delco, so is Concord and Newtown Square and they dont get lumped into that "Delco vibe"

I only considered Delco to be the small boroughs near the river (Clifton, Sharon Hill, Yeadon, etc.)

I dont really consider Springfield to be Blue Collar, pretty standard suburb.
Right, when people refer to "Delco", it's really just the Baltimore Pike/MacDade Blvd. kind of vibe. They're sure not talking about Radnor and Wayne, which are "Main Line" even though they're located in Delco.
 
Old 10-26-2018, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Chadds Ford
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Right, when people refer to "Delco", it's really just the Baltimore Pike/MacDade Blvd. kind of vibe. They're sure not talking about Radnor and Wayne, which are "Main Line" even though they're located in Delco.
I remind everyone that this all started as a Main Line vs. Media debate. I mentioned that Media, while being a nice town, is surrounded by the Delco stigma (which it does, as it's smack-dab between Baltimore Pike and MacDade Boulevard). I feel this is a factually accurate statement.

Most areas north of Baltimore Pike don't have the Delco vibe, but it also doesn't have trains into the city, so it's not a candidate due to OP's stated preference.

We're all aware that a small portion of Delco extends into the Main Line, but for the purposes of this discussion, that fact is pedantic and defensive.

I'm sorry if I offended any Delco residents, but there is an undeniable dichotomy throughout the county. Maybe I'll use the term "Southern Delaware County" in the future to avoid stepping on eggshells.
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