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Old 12-05-2018, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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I was unaware of what you said in your first sentence. The rest I agree with.
I was an Early Adopter (natch). The pass function was rolled out before the Travel Wallet was, as is happening on Regional Rail right now.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:40 AM
 
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Are you sure you saw this?


I think what you might have seen are people who use the paper cards provided by social service organizations that have the key card functionality embedded in them. They typically say something like "good for two trips". Or what have you. It's the replacement for the former program of providing these organizations tokens.


I still use the old style tranpasses, due to getting them from my employer. SEPTA claims they don't know how to do this on the keycard, which I don't quite understand. I'm not aware of any ability to do anything besides swipe it.
I am stuck with the old transpasses for the same reason. Are you saying SEPTA can't figure out how to enable the ability for the Wage Works program (or similar programs) to put a recurring pass on someone's key card?
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Compared to other cities it is expensive! The employees is rude. You cannot get accurate information from the front desk/ticket collector. The website is not user friendly.
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Old 12-07-2018, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I am stuck with the old transpasses for the same reason. Are you saying SEPTA can't figure out how to enable the ability for the Wage Works program (or similar programs) to put a recurring pass on someone's key card?

That's the rumor I heard some time ago. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but it's been a long time now and I still have the magnetic swipe pass so it seems like there might be some truth to it.





They keycard is kind of a pain anyway. It often doesn't work, to the point bus drivers don't really seem to question people anymore who get rejected by the machine. My wife's card became completely dysfunctional after a few months and she had to take time off of work to travel to an outlying sales station (as CC sales offices are closed on the weekend, and of course they can't help you at the major train stations in CC ) where her name was added to a pretty long list of people who had come in on that day only (and at that sales station only) to get their cards replaced.
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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Compared to other cities it is expensive! The employees is rude. You cannot get accurate information from the front desk/ticket collector. The website is not user friendly.
Name the cities. NY's MTA is more expensive.
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:33 AM
 
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That's the rumor I heard some time ago. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but it's been a long time now and I still have the magnetic swipe pass so it seems like there might be some truth to it.





They keycard is kind of a pain anyway. It often doesn't work, to the point bus drivers don't really seem to question people anymore who get rejected by the machine. My wife's card became completely dysfunctional after a few months and she had to take time off of work to travel to an outlying sales station (as CC sales offices are closed on the weekend, and of course they can't help you at the major train stations in CC ) where her name was added to a pretty long list of people who had come in on that day only (and at that sales station only) to get their cards replaced.
Phew! The more I hear about the mess surrounding key cards the more I'm thrilled senior card holders do not have to face any of it.
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:34 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Name the cities. NY's MTA is more expensive.
SEPTA is on par or less expensive then just about every other major system. Less expensive in comparison to New York, San Francisco, and Washington, on par with Chicago, and slightly more expensive than Boston. Expensive? Not at all when you compare it to what it would cost to drive and park to get everywhere in Philadelphia.
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Old 12-24-2018, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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Rarely. The couple of times I remember a cop, they jumped on at City Hall and hopped off before we were out of Center City.

I had similar experiences with the El before the 15th Street renovations. And some of it is a capacity issue, which is well-known. But they should do something to improve it IMO.
Capacity on the El is something I worry about. That line is terribly crowded, especially at rush hour, and not just in Center City, but nearly ended to end. An eastbound train leaving 69th at the morning rush is already packed by the time it’s at 52nd.

Yet I do know that Septa does want to reduce the congestion by lengthily the platforms so the el carries eight car trains, and not six. Yet this is mega costly and will require lots of construction and tunneling.
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Old 12-26-2018, 01:13 PM
 
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Capacity on the El is something I worry about. That line is terribly crowded, especially at rush hour, and not just in Center City, but nearly ended to end. An eastbound train leaving 69th at the morning rush is already packed by the time it’s at 52nd.

Yet I do know that Septa does want to reduce the congestion by lengthily the platforms so the el carries eight car trains, and not six. Yet this is mega costly and will require lots of construction and tunneling.
Does anyone know if they can't just run more trains? Trains arrive every 3 - 4 mins in NYC. The El is not that frequent. I know they'd have to hire more people and have more engines, but maybe that would be easier. I'm always for shorter headways than I am for longer trains. Something that could be dramatically improved on regional rail as well.
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Old 12-26-2018, 08:13 PM
 
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Capacity on the El is something I worry about. That line is terribly crowded, especially at rush hour, and not just in Center City, but nearly ended to end. An eastbound train leaving 69th at the morning rush is already packed by the time it’s at 52nd.

Yet I do know that Septa does want to reduce the congestion by lengthily the platforms so the el carries eight car trains, and not six. Yet this is mega costly and will require lots of construction and tunneling.
There was some discussion, I think, awhile back about adding another 2 car train set to each train during rush as you are saying. Some stations seem like they are long enough to accommodate 8 cars now.

For young folks info. It was crowded just like you are saying back in the 70s but that was with the old Budd "almond joy" trains. There were still large factories (Philco - Ford was one of the largest) in Kensington. So lots of commuters.
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