Is anyone thinking of leaving/moving out of the city? Why?

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by dulolo5

First time posting!

As a mid 20s individual from West Philly. I am leaving Philly for the suburbs of Texas.

The city has gotten outta control, its poorly ran and no longer safe, the school district sucks, Walnut St is almost dead. The only thing we have left are restaurants. Also, wanting to further my career, the job market here just isn't cutting it right now. I want room to explore more options and I see more variety in other places.

Ive felt very stagnant here and the kind of living Im looking for isn't offered here. Im not interested in Row home living, I grew up in one and I would like more space.

TX has exactly what im looking for which is walkability, nice sized affordable homes, community events and trails/places to walk, nice and friendly people and a better young professional scene.

Hilarious.

I agree. Philly sucks. The shopping stinks and I'm looking for something more vibrant. I've decided to move to Managua, Nicaragua.

[DocAwesome]

To be fair, a fair amount of Texas towns, especially the new/revived ones, are extremely walkable. They are more the drive-to and then walk around walkable, but are integrating more and more residential/commercial mixes into these 1st level suburbs to make them self containing. You will however need to drive on two highways and four cloverleaf interchanges to get one town over.

[dulolo5]

Originally Posted by thedirtypirate

^ lol this might be one of the most weird fake realtor ads I have seen on here. Are you Jenny Becker the lady listing the house?

It’s not an ad, it was an example to show you what I’m leaving the city for.
Communities like that are what I’m looking for and PA doesn’t provide that. If I was a realtor I surely wouldn’t be posting here, nor would I be selling homes for under $500k lol

[dulolo5]

Originally Posted by bridge12

Like, are we supposed to believe that a first-time 21 year old poster from West Philly cares that a few high-end stores on Walnut street shut down? Okay....


I'm gonna say something that might be controversial amongst some of Philly boosters. I don't really care that Walnut lost some high-end retail. It sucks but the city's retail mix has improved drastically in the past couple of years in terms of actual livability. Target and grocery stores have doubled down and then some. I'd much rather have a Target (and I have two within easy walking distance!) and a bunch of grocery stores than one Tiffanys.

And BTW, I was in Uniqlo and H&M this weekend. Both stores had lines weaving their way through the aisles. Sales have to be crazy right now. I don't really care about the high end stuff but I admit I would be upset if H&M or Uniqlo closed given both stores make up most of my clothing. And I guarantee neither one of them is going away completely.

I would kill to be 21 again... but it says a lot that we couldn’t keep Burberry, Stuart Weitzman or even Micheal Kors open on Walnut st. Mk isn’t even expensive!
Walnut St. could be a beautiful shopping destination. I’d much rather shop on Walnut than KOP or going to NYC. It has potential but those landlords are too greedy to let it be great.

[FindingZen]

Originally Posted by cpomp

While I am still a booster for higher-end retail options, your post makes good sense, AND I find it odd that this "new" poster would point out Walnut Streets lack of options as a reason to leave Philadelphia, especially since they are locating to a "Texas suburb". I have visited every major city in Texas, and none of them offer a wide array of shopping. Yes, there are high-end options OUTSIDE of Dallas, and the Galleria in Houston, but that is no different than KoP. None of them have anything like 5th Avenue, Michigan Avenue or Newbury Street, or even Walnut Street (pre-Covid).

I often say the longest decade of my life was the two years I spent in Dallas.

That said, Dallas proper does have pretty good shopping but most of it is encapsulated in malls. It's otherwise too spread out to offer consistently commercial streets. Perhaps the closest is Knox-Henderson but that's more local fare.

The job market can vary between each city, especially depending on the sector, but I wouldn't s*** on Philadelphia because there is a better option in Texas.

Indeed. Dallas-Fort Worth has the most diversified economy of the major metros while Houston relies on energy, Austin on tech, and San Antonio on tourism and the military. Philly has an "eds and meds" reputation but even our economy is fairly diverse.

And the most laughable part is lauding Texas for its walk-ability.

Indeed. Car-centric Texas is known for anything but its walkability.

[dulolo5]

Originally Posted by cpomp

While I am still a booster for higher-end retail options, your post makes good sense, AND I find it odd that this "new" poster would point out Walnut Streets lack of options as a reason to leave Philadelphia, especially since they are locating to a "Texas suburb". I have visited every major city in Texas, and none of them offer a wide array of shopping. Yes, there are high-end options OUTSIDE of Dallas, and the Galleria in Houston, but that is no different than KoP. None of them have anything like 5th Avenue, Michigan Avenue or Newbury Street, or even Walnut Street (pre-Covid).

The job market can vary between each city, especially depending on the sector, but I wouldn't s*** on Philadelphia because there is a better option in Texas.

And the most laughable part is lauding Texas for its walk-ability.

That entire post appears fishy and actually kinda pathetic.

The galleria ****s on KOP, half the stores inside people here in Philly would have to go to NYC or Short Hills for.
River Oaks District ****s on Walnut St...that’s all the shopping you need. All we have in CC is Boyd’s and Joan Shepp... nothing spectacular.
Only thing I’ll miss are the restaurants, we have such great restaurants and if I could take little nonnas and Friday Saturday Sunday with me I would! Luckily TX does have a Nobu so that’ll have to do.

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by dulolo5

I would kill to be 21 again... but it says a lot that we couldn’t keep Burberry, Stuart Weitzman or even Micheal Kors open on Walnut st. Mk isn’t even expensive!
Walnut St. could be a beautiful shopping destination. I’d much rather shop on Walnut than KOP or going to NYC. It has potential but those landlords are too greedy to let it be great.

Kill to be 21? Your first post said you are in your mid-twenties. Killing to go back 4 years?

And you are oddly obsessed with shopping (not in a fun way), and if that is the grounds of your move to Texas, then god bless and enjoy...

Originally Posted by dulolo5

The galleria ****s on KOP, half the stores inside people here in Philly would have to go to NYC or Short Hills for.
River Oaks District ****s on Walnut St...that’s all the shopping you need. All we have in CC is Boyd’s and Joan Shepp... nothing spectacular.
Only thing I’ll miss are the restaurants, we have such great restaurants and if I could take little nonnas and Friday Saturday Sunday with me I would! Luckily TX does have a Nobu so that’ll have to do.

First, online shopping is a thing, most regions do not have direct access to super luxury goods, Philadelphia does via in person or online.

Second, anyone with finances affording a plethora of luxury goods will have fashion connections in Philadelphia via designers, boutiques, shoppers, etc.

Third, I've been to the Galleria many times, it does offer more than KoP, but s***?, definitely not. They are both among Simons prized properties and offer an excellent shopping experience across the board.

River Oaks is a very small planned "walk-able" town center nearby, between Highway 610 and train tracks, it offers much more retail than Walnut, but they are nothing alike. Walnut Street is a dense bustling downtown street, River Oaks a town center with fancy stores, odd comparison.

Again, if this is your basis to move, then enjoy Houston and strolling around River Oaks. Send us a picture of you in your new Balenciaga top...

(Side note.. you seem like a longtime poster under an alias account, or maybe Ernest Owens joined CD? Definitely younger, but naïve and peculiar posts).

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by FindingZen

I often say the longest decade of my life was the two years I spent in Dallas.

That said, Dallas proper does have pretty good shopping but most of it is encapsulated in malls. It's otherwise too spread out to offer consistently commercial streets. Perhaps the closest is Knox-Henderson but that's more local fare.


Indeed. Dallas-Fort Worth has the most diversified economy of the major metros while Houston relies on energy, Austin on tech, and San Antonio on tourism and the military. Philly has an "eds and meds" reputation but even our economy is fairly diverse.


Indeed. Car-centric Texas is known for anything but its walkability.

I visit Texas too much for work, but Dallas is probably my "favorite" Texas city, some decent spots like Uptown. Austin is too small and becoming very expensive, Houston is a hard no. I haven't spent much time in San Antonio, but I may like it more if I have some free time to explore. (but yea, need a car for any city there).

But it sounds like our friend decided on Houston due to the Galleria! I'm sure he/she will love strolling down Westheimer Road on his way to River Oaks... https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7413...7i16384!8i8192

I guess the job part will come later.