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Old 05-25-2018, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Center City
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The Census Bureau released its 2017 population estimates earlier this week, and the city grew by just over 6,000 residents since 2016 estimate: Philadelphia's population increased, but it's not all good, according to Census data - Philly.

While that is good news, it seems the growth is due in large part to births outnumbering deaths. We seem to be drawing in as many new residents as we are losing. The sorry state of our school system may be accounting for a large part of the out-migration. For every 100 families with children moving to the city, 270 are leaving. This puts an even more intense spotlight on the efforts of the city to improve the school system, now that we taken ownership of it.

This modest increase in population is good news, especially given that the estimates for legacy cities such as Pittsburgh and Chicago actually show their population declining. But pulling apart the numbers, it’s fairly imperative that we improve our school system so that we can retain residents once they have children of school age.
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: West Philadelphia
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I didn't grow up in Philly; I recently moved here. I didn't attend any Philly schools, but I hear a lot of complaints these days. Is the city taking any corrective action?
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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It looks like the North East is lagging the rest of the country. What's surprising to me is the West is growing faster than the South.

On a lighter note, I hope the kids leaving the city take with them their best mannerism to the county schools

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The Census Bureau released its 2017 population estimates earlier this week, and the city grew by just over 6,000 residents since 2016 estimate: Philadelphia's population increased, but it's not all good, according to Census data - Philly.

While that is good news, it seems the growth is due in large part to births outnumbering deaths. We seem to be drawing in as many new residents as we are losing. The sorry state of our school system may be accounting for a large part of the out-migration. For every 100 families with children moving to the city, 270 are leaving. This puts an even more intense spotlight on the efforts of the city to improve the school system, now that we taken ownership of it.

This modest increase in population is good news, especially given that the estimates for legacy cities such as Pittsburgh and Chicago actually show their population declining. But pulling apart the numbers, it’s fairly imperative that we improve our school system so that we can retain residents once they have children of school age.
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Center City
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I didn't grow up in Philly; I recently moved here. I didn't attend any Philly schools, but I hear a lot of complaints these days. Is the city taking any corrective action?
Who is complaining and what’s their complaint?
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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This article is from March.
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Old 05-25-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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This article is from March.
How does that change the discussion?

Here’s a link to the actual Census estimates: https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...xhtml?src=bkmk
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Old 05-25-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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How does that change the discussion?

Here’s a link to the actual Census estimates: https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...xhtml?src=bkmk
I'm very concerned about what may happen with the 2020 census. The census bureau should be well under way with 2020 roll out by now. Integrity? Accuracy? Does Wilbur Ross care?
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Old 05-25-2018, 01:38 PM
 
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Well, it looks like at the current pace San Antonio will pass Philly in 2020 or 2021 latest. Most of the undocumented immigrants are in the West and the South so they will be more affected by changes in the the census.





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I'm very concerned about what may happen with the 2020 census. The census bureau should be well under way with 2020 roll out by now. Integrity? Accuracy? Does Wilbur Ross care?
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Old 05-25-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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Well, it looks like at the current pace San Antonio will pass Philly in 2020 or 2021 latest. Most of the undocumented immigrants are in the West and the South so they will be more affected by changes in the the census.
That's part of why the next census is important. I'm not sure if the results will even be close to being accurate.

Wrt the people you are talking about there's supposed to be a citizenship question. That question has been around before and should just be for information not as a means to profile anyone.

Who knows how the Trump admin will handle undocumented people and the census since they ultimately want to deport all of them.
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Old 05-25-2018, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Well, it looks like at the current pace San Antonio will pass Philly in 2020 or 2021 latest. Most of the undocumented immigrants are in the West and the South so they will be more affected by changes in the the census.
Cities like San Antonio and Houston will be more affected by the new census changes given those cities have much larger illegal immigrant populations than cities like Philadelphia. With all that being said, I think Philly will most likely remain in the top 5 largest cities in the US when the official Census stats are released.

https://www.history.com/news/census-...sy-citizenship
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