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Old 12-09-2020, 02:49 PM
 
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There are two potential changes to the election system that would have an immediate impact in that regard:

First, ranked choice / instant runoff voting in every election everywhere. The major parties spend a lot of time scaring their flock into thinking that if they don't vote for their team regardless of how odious their own candidate is, the other even worse team will win. Ranked choice voting allows people to vote for whoever they think is the actual best person in the race first and still have a failsafe to ensure they are not enabling the "worst of the worst" team to win.

Second, change the debate rules to include everyone who is on the ballot in enough states to get 270 EV into the debates, at least for the first one. You can't let every joker who declares as a candidate into the debates, but if you and your party has done the legwork to gather signatures to get on the ballot for a majority of EVs, that is no small feat and you should be taken seriously and your voice heard. That would allow millions of more people access to the views & candidates of the Libertarian and Green parties to make a more informed choice in the end.
Which is exactly why it will never happen. The professional politicians in the R and D parties have too much at stake to ever allow that.
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:21 AM
 
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Biden did very well in Pennsylvania's cities and its large suburban areas.

His margin is a bit smaller than Hillary's in Philadelphia, but the turnout was higher, so overall the margin is only about 1% less in Philadelphia.

Most of Trump's vote in Philadelphia was not people of color at all. To anyone who said that, really needs to understand the politics. Trump tried to build a poc narrative. They did not show up. at all.

It was predominately white's in the Northeast Pocket of the city, which has about 500,000 people and is known to be the small Republican pocket of Philadelphia. Just as Staten Island is for NYC.

Biden carried: Chester, Montgomery, Delaware and Bucks in big wins over Hillary.

He also gained more votes in suburban Pittsburgh,Lehigh Valley, Harrisburg and Scranton in larger margins than Hillary. Dauphin County has now voted blue since 2008, and is a solid Democratic part of the state.

The suburban voter turnout is important.

Erie County also flipped back to blue, after going Red in 2016. Which is a vital historically Democratic anchor in the NW corner of the state.
Trump won more POC vote than any previous Republican candidates in modern history, including a significantly higher share of male African Americans than in past elections, and made major gains among Latino voters. It's selective bias that ignores this.

There is unquestionably a tone of smug self-congratulations in this thread and I'm not quite sure what the objective is. Pennsylvania remains a deeply polarized state. It doesn't help that the deep blue areas regard the red parts of the state with contempt and disgust, which they know very well.
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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... It's selective bias that ignores this.

There is unquestionably a tone of smug self-congratulations in this thread and I'm not quite sure what the objective is. Pennsylvania remains a deeply polarized state. It doesn't help that the deep blue areas regard the red parts of the state with contempt and disgust, which they know very well.
... speaking of bias. The polarization and contempt goes both ways. The political climates is abysmal overall, but to suggest that "the deep blue areas regard the red parts" any worse than vice versa is disingenuous.
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Old 12-10-2020, 12:14 PM
 
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Trump won more POC vote than any previous Republican candidates in modern history, including a significantly higher share of male African Americans than in past elections, and made major gains among Latino voters. It's selective bias that ignores this.

There is unquestionably a tone of smug self-congratulations in this thread and I'm not quite sure what the objective is. Pennsylvania remains a deeply polarized state. It doesn't help that the deep blue areas regard the red parts of the state with contempt and disgust, which they know very well.
In terms of the Black vote, Trump increased from 10% in 2016 to an estimated 20% this year, mostly on the strength of Black men. Notwithstanding the "Blacks For Trump" outpost in West Philly, one would be hard pressed to find Black Trump voters in the city proper.

The Hispanic Trump vote was estimated to be a third. Considering his regard for Puerto Rico, I would be surprised if a significant number of that established community here chose him.

The Asian/Pacific Islander Trump vote was around 25%. I'm doubtful he got much help from Chinatown residents.
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